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How old are you? Twelve?

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:39 am How old are you? Twelve?

Old enough to ask: Is the entry on democracy in Wikipedia qualitatively better than the entry on democracy in the Oxford dictionary?

Skepdick wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:48 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:39 am How old are you? Twelve?

Old enough to ask: Is the entry on democracy in Wikipedia qualitatively better than the entry on democracy in the Oxford dictionary?

Is it? You are the one making the claim.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:52 am Is it? You are the one making the claim.

Do you understand the meaning of the symbol that looks like this "?" at the end of the sentence?

Skepdick wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:56 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:52 am Is it? You are the one making the claim.

Do you understand the meaning of the symbol that looks like this "?" at the end of the sentence?

Do you remember your own OP? There's a better authority to appeal to in 2021 - Wikipedia.

Why are you comparing a 'wikipedia' (a play on the word 'encyclopaedia') with a dictionary? Wouldn't it be more logical to compare a dictionary with 'wiktionary' (or whatever it's called)?

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:59 am Do you remember your own OP? There's a better authority to appeal to in 2021 - Wikipedia.

Why are you comparing a 'wikipedia' (a play on the word 'encyclopaedia') with a dictionary? Wouldn't it be more logical to compare a dictionary with 'wiktionary' (or whatever it's called)?

It would be far more logical to use the thing which better answers the question: "What is Democracy?"

If a 17 year old asked you the question, would you point them to a dictionary or to wikipedia for a reasonably comprehensive general answer?

Why do I get the feeling you are waiting for an AHA! moment?

WIKI is Hawaiian for “to hurry; fast, quick.”

Btw, I find mistakes in Wikipedia all the time. Sentences that go nowhere. Bad spelling and grammar. It's only good for very shallow and frivolous searches, not in-depth research.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:26 am Why do I get the feeling you are waiting for an AHA! moment?

I don't know why you get the feelings that you get. You probably know yourself better than I know you.

What I am waiting for is an answer to my question: Is the entry on democracy in Wikipedia qualitatively better than the entry on democracy in the Oxford dictionary?

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:32 am Btw, I find mistakes in Wikipedia all the time. Sentences that go nowhere. Bad spelling and grammar. It's only good for very shallow and frivolous searches, not in-depth research.

If depth is what you are after would you ever choose a dictionary over wikipedia?

Skepdick wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:05 am Wikipedia is better.

"Better"? What's your evidence for "better"? "Better" in what way?

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:24 pm "Better"? What's your evidence for "better"?

The evidence of Wikipedia being better than a dictionary is my evidence for it being better.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:24 pm "Better" in what way?

In every way that it's better than a dictionary.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:32 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:24 pm "Better"? What's your evidence for "better"?

The evidence of Wikipedia being better than a dictionary is my evidence for it being better.

That's like saying, "My proof is that I have proof." It's nothing but a circular claim.

Prove it.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:43 pm It's nothing but a circular claim.

Is it?

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:43 pm Prove it.

Perfect timing, I guess? Since I don't know what you mean by "proof". You were going to tell me, but you forgot.