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Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:43 pm liberal socialist

Your funniest coinage so far. What a contradiction in terms.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:03 am

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:55 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:53 am Did he force those people to do what they did

What does that have to do with anything I said?

Everything...

Not from my perspective. Please explain.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:51 am I can't agree...it was a bone-headed move...

I'm not saying it made sense. I'm not saying it will achieve anything. I'm saying the Democrats are the last people in the world with any justification to throw up their hands in horror and scream, "What has happened to the rule of law?" They burned the rule of law to the ground, and now they are surprised that mayhem has broken out? They have no right to put one toe on the high ground, let alone a foot.

Heh. You could surf to Hawaii on the waves of hypocrisy emanating from the Dems today.

Immanuel Can Henry wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:28 am

henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:51 am I can't agree...it was a bone-headed move...

I'm not saying it made sense. I'm not saying it will achieve anything. I'm saying the Democrats are the last people in the world with any justification to throw up their hands in horror and scream, "What has happened to the rule of law?"

But you think that YOU have any justification to say the shit you say... or that Republicans have any justification to say any of the shit they say... and as usual, your one-sided, self-serving opinions are full of crap that you slather all over yourself with glee.

Lacewing wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:01 am

Immanuel Can Henry wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:28 am

henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:51 am I can't agree...it was a bone-headed move...

I'm not saying it made sense. I'm not saying it will achieve anything. I'm saying the Democrats are the last people in the world with any justification to throw up their hands in horror and scream, "What has happened to the rule of law?"

But you think that YOU have any justification to say the shit you say... or that Republicans have any justification to say any of the shit they say... and as usual, your one-sided, self-serving opinions are full of crap that you slather all over yourself with glee.

Yet it's true...

henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:15 am to expand a bit: the majority who went to wash. went to protest, as in peacefully assemble, and had nuthin' to do with the riotous nonsense...but, the peaceable effort of those folks was more than overshadowed by the rioters (and that's what they are)

as for the protesters: it was a wasted effort from the start, even without the rioters messin' things up...they weren't gonna get fair coverage no matter what

Isn't that the exact same narrative of the peaceable effort of the BLM folk?

Always overshadowed by the violent individuals.

We've seen this movie a thousand times before.

The critics of the 2016-2020 protests become the apologists of the 2020-2024 protests.

It's bad when "they" do it.
It's not as bad when "we" do it.
The media is overhyping it.
The antagonists did it.

Left mobs. Right mobs. Still just mobs with predictable narratives.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:41 am We've seen this movie a thousand times before.

The critics of the 2016-2020 protests become the apologists of the 2020-2024 protests.

It's bad when "they" do it.
It's not as bad when "we" do it.
The media is overhyping it.
The antagonists did it.

Left mobs. Right mobs. Still just mobs with predictable narratives.

Pointing out blatant hypocrisy is hardly 'apologising'. Perhaps if you eased up on the jargon...

henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:02 am

Walker wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:41 am
It’s easy enough for an antifa to put on a red hat.

absolutely...so, with that in mind, coupled with the fact that even the most peaceful assembly wasn't gonna get a fair hearin' or fair coverage, why do such a thing?

A few days ago Nancy Pelosi's garage door was spray painted with graffiti. I saw the photograph and noticed that whoever did it was careful to not get any paint on the bricks. Paint only touched the door and the wood trim around the door. Not a drop on the bricks.

Much harder to get paint off bricks.

That sure was considerate of those vandals.

(Deception, tidiness, and pettiness are characteristic of the woman. Remember, she was quite neat about it when she tore up the State of the Union address live, and literally behind the President's back.)

Deception is also characteristic of Leftists. Remember Smollett in Chicago. Hell, remember anything that comes from the mouth of a Leftist*.


* for taxonomists ... of a Radical Leftist Progressive, even though the first two words are getting more redundant. Did you notice that the radical Muslim women in Congress got plum committee positions from Pelosi after this election.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:59 am Pointing out blatant hypocrisy is hardly 'apologising'. Perhaps if you eased up on the jargon...

OK. I'll simplify it.

There's a huuuuuuuge difference between pointing out hypocrisy and participating in it.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:24 am

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:59 am Pointing out blatant hypocrisy is hardly 'apologising'. Perhaps if you eased up on the jargon...

OK. I'll simplify it.

There's a huuuuuuuge difference between pointing out hypocrisy and participating in it.

Yes, there is...

btw, where was the Antifi presence during all of this?
They are always around during Trump events.

There must have been a couple of hundred thousand people at this one.

Easy enough for Antifi to blend in.
Just wear a red hat.

Vandalism is characteristic of Antifi.

Ergo ...

Certainly objective investigation in warranted from the circumstantial evidence, or would be if there was any interest in truth, rather than in just buying the Brooklyn Bridge.

There probably won't be any investigation into who the vandals actually were.
Why wrinkle an effective narrative, 'specially when so many are eager to swallow it, and the hook, and the line ...

In the Progressive mind and world, it's much easier to slander any who dare to question what the media says.

Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:53 pm I am hoping that the conservatives here try to discourage the extremes on your side.

Hopefully things will de-escallate but does anyone here NOT think that Trump is acting criminal? Trump should be immediately removed for sedition.

Trump instigated that riot. He told lies to the people and the responded with violence.
On previous orders to "Stand by", he told them to march and show strength.
A woman died. Her blood is on his hands.

Inciting a riot is a criminal offence in most countries. Is Trump above the law?

Walker wrote: ↑Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:38 am btw, where was the Antifi presence during all of this?
They are always around during Trump events.

There must have been a couple of hundred thousand people at this one.

Easy enough for Antifi to blend in.
Just wear a red hat.

Vandalism is characteristic of Antifi.

Ergo ...

Certainly objective investigation in warranted from the circumstantial evidence, or would be if there was any interest in truth, rather than in just buying the Brooklyn Bridge.

There probably won't be any investigation into who the vandals actually were.
Why wrinkle an effective narrative, 'specially when so many are eager to swallow it, and the hook, and the line ...

In the Progressive mind and world, it's much easier to slander any who dare to question what the media says.

Yeah... totally, antifa false flag operation...

Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:17 pm Okay, Trump has just Tweeted this:

Donald J. Trump wrote:"I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order – respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. Thank you!"

and

Donald J. Trump wrote: "Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!"

This may help reduce the violence but he now cannot escape his criminal culpability. Mind you, considering the conservatives think all the media is fake, these announcements may be considered fake themselves?

He said that 3 hours AFTER he lied to the crowd, and told them to march on the Capitol. And after that woman was shot.
He was clever enough to hold back when he first incited the riot.
He did try to get Pence to illegally disrupt the ceremony.
He also tried to "find" 11000 voted illegally.
He is a criminal.