There is no personal God or impersonal God.

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Age wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:49 am
But you said, "this is where we REALLY do part company now, so I'm out." two of your posts, to me, earlier.

So, I will wait till I SEE it, before I accept it.


There is no 'me'

I'm talking to myself, the one I lie about in order to know truth. The truth of the lie.
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Age wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:49 am
Anyway, there is NO one who has 'their' mind.
So who or what is writing their BOOK ?
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Age wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:49 am
But you said, "this is where we REALLY do part company now, so I'm out." two of your posts, to me, earlier.

So, I will wait till I SEE it, before I accept it.
I lied.

If you accept a lie, then that is a belief you don't have. So nothing to accept.
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Dontaskme wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:06 pm
Age wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:49 am
Dontaskme wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:35 am

That's good to hear.

I mean who in their right sane mind would want to pay for a pack of lies. Truth is free, it's not for sale.
Lies can be for free, and not for sale also.

Anyway, there is NO one who has 'their' mind. This is just ANOTHER one of the lies 'you', human beings, tell each other/"your" 'selves'.

That's true, lies are truth which is free, and not for sale.
Is this ABSOLUTELY True, or just what is true, to 'you'?
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Dontaskme wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:09 pm
Age wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:49 am
But you said, "this is where we REALLY do part company now, so I'm out." two of your posts, to me, earlier.

So, I will wait till I SEE it, before I accept it.


There is no 'me'

I'm talking to myself, the one I lie about in order to know truth. The truth of the lie.
If there is a 'my', as in an owner of a 'self', which is what the word 'myself' implies, then this would also imply that there really is a 'me'.
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Age wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:06 am
Dontaskme wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:09 pm
Age wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:49 am
But you said, "this is where we REALLY do part company now, so I'm out." two of your posts, to me, earlier.

So, I will wait till I SEE it, before I accept it.


There is no 'me'

I'm talking to myself, the one I lie about in order to know truth. The truth of the lie.
If there is a 'my', as in an owner of a 'self', which is what the word 'myself' implies, then this would also imply that there really is a 'me'.
You have claimed you have no beliefs. So how do you know there is a 'me' / 'my' ?
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Age wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:04 am
Dontaskme wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:06 pm
Age wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:49 am

Lies can be for free, and not for sale also.

Anyway, there is NO one who has 'their' mind. This is just ANOTHER one of the lies 'you', human beings, tell each other/"your" 'selves'.

That's true, lies are truth which is free, and not for sale.
Is this ABSOLUTELY True, or just what is true, to 'you'?
There are no such things as truths or lies, except as beliefs...aka ideas thought to be real.
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Dontaskme wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:13 pm
Age wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:49 am
Anyway, there is NO one who has 'their' mind.
So who or what is writing their BOOK ?
Who is writing their book, is thee one and ONLY One.

This One writes their book through the what is commonly known as 'human being'.

Although "people" put their OWN mis/interpretations in the form of written words onto pages, which come from the hands of a physical body, which each "person" is within, it is actually thee one and ONLY 'Thing', which is writing 'their' BOOK.

Each "person" may think/believe it is an actual separate being writing books, but ONLY thee One is writing books, through physical human bodies.

'Who' is writing their BOOK is thee one and ONLY, non visible, Mind, Itself.

'What' is writing their BOOK is thee one and ONLY, visible, Universe, Itself.
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Dontaskme wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:17 pm
Age wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:49 am
But you said, "this is where we REALLY do part company now, so I'm out." two of your posts, to me, earlier.

So, I will wait till I SEE it, before I accept it.
I lied.

If you accept a lie, then that is a belief you don't have. So nothing to accept.
But I do NOT accept a lie, so the rest is just a moot point.
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Age wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:14 am
'What' is writing their BOOK is thee one and ONLY, visible, Universe, Itself.
Why would the one and only write a book? what would the one and only gain from such a persuit? Is there a reason or purpose for the one and only to write a book?
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Age wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:15 am
But I do NOT accept a lie, so the rest is just a moot point.
If you do not accept a lie, then you do not accept the truth, the truth you keep peddling to be the one and only truth.

How does that work? as like I said earlier, a lie is the truth.

Are you tripping again :?:
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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:08 am
Age wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:06 am
Dontaskme wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:09 pm



There is no 'me'

I'm talking to myself, the one I lie about in order to know truth. The truth of the lie.
If there is a 'my', as in an owner of a 'self', which is what the word 'myself' implies, then this would also imply that there really is a 'me'.
You have claimed you have no beliefs. So how do you know there is a 'me' / 'my' ?
'Knowing some thing' does NOT necessarily 'have to' have any bearing at all, NOR any relationship at all, to 'believing any thing, at all'. And vice-versa.

'Believing some thing' does NOT necessarily 'have to' have any bearing at all, NOR any relationship at all, to 'knowing ANY thing, at all'.

One can KNOW things WITHOUT 'having to' BELIEVE absolutely ANY thing at all. And one can BELIEVE some things are true, WITHOUT ever KNOWING.

Also, from what I wrote above in the quote here, what led 'you' to ASSUME I KNOW that there is a 'me'/'my'?

'you' were the 'one' who wrote; "I'm talking to my/self". And, I was the 'one' who began that reply by writing; "IF there is a 'my', ...", and then ended with " then this would also IMPLY ...". There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL in there about 'KNOWING'.

In that - 'If this IMPLIES 'this', then 'that' would also IMPLY 'this'' - sentence, there is NO acknowledgement of KNOWING there is a 'me'/'my'. That was just a sentence constructed to think about. If it was a logically and reasoned constructed sentence, then so be it. But, if it was NOT a logical and/or reasoned sentence, then WHY NOT?
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Age wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:59 am
'Knowing some thing' does NOT necessarily 'have to' have any bearing at all, NOR any relationship at all, to 'believing any thing, at all'. And vice-versa.

'Believing some thing' does NOT necessarily 'have to' have any bearing at all, NOR any relationship at all, to 'knowing ANY thing, at all'.

One can KNOW things WITHOUT 'having to' BELIEVE absolutely ANY thing at all. And one can BELIEVE some things are true, WITHOUT ever KNOWING.

So there is KNOWING

That we could all agree on.

But why would this KNOWING then write a book about KNOWING...Why would it make a copy of this knowing?

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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:10 am
Age wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:04 am
Dontaskme wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:06 pm

That's true, lies are truth which is free, and not for sale.
Is this ABSOLUTELY True, or just what is true, to 'you'?
There are no such things as truths or lies, except as beliefs...aka ideas thought to be real.
Is this ABSOLUTELY True, or just what is true, to 'you'? Or, is this just a 'belief', of 'yours', only?

By the way, ideas thought to be real are NOT necessarily a 'belief'. This is because 'thoughts', themselves, are NOT necessarily 'beliefs'.
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Age wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:13 am
Is this ABSOLUTELY True, or just what is true, to 'you'? Or, is this just a 'belief', of 'yours', only?
Why are you asking me, you've already claimed there is KNOWING ...so you should already know the answer to your own question.
Age wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:13 amBy the way, ideas thought to be real are NOT necessarily a 'belief'. This is because 'thoughts', themselves, are NOT necessarily 'beliefs'.
Is that claim your belief?

If you already know/have the answer, then why you asking me?
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