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Re: Does Ontological Relativity undermine Absolute Truth?

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:52 am
by Skepdick
Sculptor wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:00 am Quine is a fool.
The same could be said about Ontological Objectivists (and I assume you are one).

Your religion goes against all Empirical and Historical evidence.

Re: Does Ontological Relativity undermine Absolute Truth?

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:00 am
by Skepdick
uwot wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:06 pm I'll keep it brief. By "believing" and "not believing", I mean believing and not believing.
So you can't tell me what those words mean to you? Oh well...

I am going to venture a guess that "communicating my beliefs" relays far more information about my vocabulary than my actual behaviour or thought-patterns.

Re: Does Ontological Relativity undermine Absolute Truth?

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:48 am
by uwot
Skepdick wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:00 am
uwot wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:06 pm I'll keep it brief. By "believing" and "not believing", I mean believing and not believing.
So you can't tell me what those words mean to you? Oh well...
Then let me give you an example: I don't believe you don't know what believe means.
Skepdick wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:00 amI am going to venture a guess that "communicating my beliefs" relays far more information about my vocabulary than my actual behaviour or thought-patterns.
Well yeah; actions speak louder than words.

Re: Does Ontological Relativity undermine Absolute Truth?

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:22 pm
by Sculptor
Skepdick wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:52 am
Sculptor wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:00 am Quine is a fool.
The same could be said about Ontological Objectivists (and I assume you are one).

Your religion goes against all Empirical and Historical evidence.
1) No, you assumption is false.

2) I believe nothing, and so have no religon.

Your score 2/0

Re: Does Ontological Relativity undermine Absolute Truth?

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:52 am
by Skepdick
Sculptor wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:22 pm 1) No, you assumption is false.
Just because it's not true it doesn't mean it's false.
Sculptor wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:22 pm 2) I believe nothing, and so have no religon.
The absence of belief is a belief.
Sculptor wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:22 pm Your score 2/0
Indeed. I am in the lead.

Re: Does Ontological Relativity undermine Absolute Truth?

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:56 am
by Skepdick
uwot wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:48 am Then let me give you an example: I don't believe you don't know what believe means.
OK, but I don't know what 'believe' means, because nobody knows what "meaning" is.

At best - meaning is contingent and highly subjective, so your sentence is meaningless to me.

Re: Does Ontological Relativity undermine Absolute Truth?

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:10 pm
by Sculptor
Skepdick wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:52 am
Sculptor wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:22 pm 1) No, you assumption is false.
Just because it's not true it doesn't mean it's false.
Your assumption is false, and that means it is not true.
You are just making an arse of yourself
Sculptor wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:22 pm 2) I believe nothing, and so have no religon.
The absence of belief is a belief.
Again you are making a damn fool of yourself.
Absence of fish is not a fish.
Absence of reason is not reason. You have an absence of reason.
Sculptor wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:22 pm Your score 0
Indeed. I am in the lead.
Your new score 0/5

Re: Does Ontological Relativity undermine Absolute Truth?

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:12 pm
by Sculptor
Skepdick wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:56 am
uwot wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:48 am Then let me give you an example: I don't believe you don't know what believe means.
OK, but I don't know what 'believe' means, because nobody knows what "meaning" is.
That is meaningless.
What do you mean?

At best - meaning is contingent and highly subjective, so your sentence is meaningless to me.
You are meaningless to the world.

Re: Does Ontological Relativity undermine Absolute Truth?

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:39 pm
by Skepdick
Sculptor wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:12 pm That is meaningless.
To you. Not to me.
Sculptor wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:12 pm What do you mean?
Why are you asking?
Sculptor wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:12 pm You are meaningless to the world.
Everybody is. The world doesn't care about meaning. Only humans do.

Re: Does Ontological Relativity undermine Absolute Truth?

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:39 pm
by Skepdick
Sculptor wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:10 pm Your new score 0/5
I scored 3 more? Great!

Re: Does Ontological Relativity undermine Absolute Truth?

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:47 pm
by Skepdick
Sculptor wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:10 pm Your assumption is false, and that means it is not true.
Second time I have to explain this to you now. False doesn't necessarily mean not true.
Sculptor wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:10 pm Absence of reason is not reason. You have an absence of reason.
Better an absence than a negative score. Either way - it's relevant to one's ontological conception of "reason".
Sculptor wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:22 pm Your new score 0/5
Yay! I scored 3 more.

Re: Does Ontological Relativity undermine Absolute Truth?

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:50 pm
by Sculptor
Skepdick wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:39 pm
Sculptor wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:12 pm That is meaningless.
To you. Not to me.
You just contradicted yourself.
Sculptor wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:12 pm What do you mean?
Why are you asking?
Nothing. This is irony
Sculptor wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:12 pm You are meaningless to the world.
Everybody is. The world doesn't care about meaning. Only humans do.
No. But you seem to be.
The "world" is the human on earth.
The earth does not care, true.

Re: Does Ontological Relativity undermine Absolute Truth?

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:51 pm
by Sculptor
Skepdick wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:39 pm
Sculptor wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:10 pm Your new score 0/5
I scored 3 more? Great!
You are obviously stupid.
score 0 out of 6

Can't you get anything right?

Re: Does Ontological Relativity undermine Absolute Truth?

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:52 pm
by Skepdick
Sculptor wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:51 pm You are obviously stupid.
Relative to you that's not true.

Re: Does Ontological Relativity undermine Absolute Truth?

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:52 pm
by Sculptor
Skepdick wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:52 pm
Sculptor wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:51 pm You are obviously stupid.
Relative to you that's not true.
"Dick" is the only truth about you.