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It is also irrelevant because it is off topic and has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the subject matter of this thread
So therefore do not reply to this since it will simply divert from what tbe thread is about [ I have told you about this before ]

Age wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:21 am1. 'Knowns' are NOT ideas/thoughts.

To know something requires to think about what it is that is being known in the instant there is the demand for knowledge. Thoughts are KNOWN concepts in the instant they arise, one with the knowing.

So I guess you are JUST plain wrong again.


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surreptitious57 wrote:
It is also irrelevant because it is off topic and has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the subject matter of this thread
So therefore do not reply to this since it will simply divert from what the thread is about [ I have told you about this before ]

I had to correct that rather stupid spelling mistake which I have only just noticed
And so do not think I am reminding you of what I said as I am not doing that at all

For me non duality is simply the state of Existence no more or no less
It is not something that can be analysed from a human perspective because it transcends any and all interpretation
It is infinite and absolute so what any human thinks of it is entirely irrelevant for it has and will exist without them

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:28 am

Age wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:21 am


If I am WRONG, then what IS RIGHT.

Your wrong is RIGHT.

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One will NOT do the opposite of what one BELIEVES is TRUE.

surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:42 am

Age wrote:
I wish though you were so forthcoming to answering my clarifying questions that are directed towards you surreptitious57 but anyway

And I wish that you would stop asking me this question when I have answered it multiple times already and consistently so as well

'WHAT' question are 'you' talking about here?

I did NOT ask any questions here. What is 'this' question that 'you' can see but 'I' can NOT?

Why do 'you', human beings, some times SEE a question when there is NOT one, but are some times completely BLIND and do NOT see questions which are actually there?

surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:42 amFor the absolute and final time then I do not answer all of your questions simply because I do not have the mental energy to do so

WHY do 'you' continually remind me of this?

surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:42 amYou continue to ask me this

When did I ask 'you' "this", whatever 'this' IS exactly?

surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:42 amthen I will simply not bother answering you anymore as I am already wasting mental energy in doing so

I think 'you' are wasting more "mental energy" SEEING things, which are NOT even there?

AGAIN, What IS the question that 'you' can see here?

surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:47 am It is also irrelevant because it is off topic and has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the subject matter of this thread

What IS the 'it' that is also irrelevant because ...?

surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:47 amSo therefore do not reply to this since it will simply divert from what tbe thread is about [ I have told you about this before ]

I do NOT even know what 'you' are talking about here now.

Also, I am NOT the only that diverts in discussions, (which 'you' have implied before also).

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:54 am

Age wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:21 am1. 'Knowns' are NOT ideas/thoughts.

To know something requires to think about what it is that is being known in the instant there is the demand for knowledge.

Not necessarily so. Some 'Knowns' are completely unconsciously KNOWN, and are KNOWN BEFORE there is even any thinking at all within a human body.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:54 amThoughts are KNOWN concepts in the instant they arise, one with the knowing.

Instead of just saying things like this, WHY do you NEVER explain HOW and WHY this supposedly occurs.

Saying things, which OBVIOUSLY appear completely contradictory and absurd but NEVER elaborating on them nor ever explaining more detail, nor ever actually describing any thing, especially when being asked for clarity just SHOWS what 'you' do actually know and how much 'you' actually just THINK 'you' know.

If you can NOT prove with evidence what 'you' claim IS TRUE, then WHY express it?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:54 amSo I guess you are JUST plain wrong again.


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If 'you' say so, then it MUST BE TRUE, correct?

What is IT EXACTLY, which 'you' BELIEVE 'you' KNOW is TRUE and RIGHT?

Also, what is IT EXACTLY, which 'you' are 'trying to' tell us IS thee actual Truth of things?

surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:02 am

surreptitious57 wrote:
It is also irrelevant because it is off topic and has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the subject matter of this thread
So therefore do not reply to this since it will simply divert from what the thread is about [ I have told you about this before ]

I had to correct that rather stupid spelling mistake which I have only just noticed
And so do not think I am reminding you of what I said as I am not doing that at all

I am now more confused about what 'you' are actually talking about here.

surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:11 am For me non duality is simply the state of Existence no more or no less

So, there is, literally, NOTHING that separates all physical things from each other?

surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:11 amIt is not something that can be analysed from a human perspective because it transcends any and all interpretation

Non duality does NOT transcend any and all interpretation AT ALL.

Just because 'you', human beings, at any stage in evolution do NOT yet KNOW some thing, then that does NOT mean some thing transcends any and all interpretation at all.

Analyzing non duality is absolutely one of the most simplest and basic things that can be done, but, as 'you' have alluded to, NOT from the human perspective ONLY. But, from the Truly OPEN perspective.

surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:11 amIt is infinite and absolute so what any human thinks of it is entirely irrelevant for it has and will exist without them

And YET here It is existing AND ALSO able to be explained in very simple and very easy to be understood terms.

Talking to 'you', human beings, in the days when this is written, and 'trying to' get 'you' to LISTEN, would be very similar to 'trying to' tell 'you', human beings, that the earth revolves around the sun when 'you' BELIEVED otherwise.

Age wrote:
I wish though you were so forthcoming to answering my clarifying questions that are directed towards you surreptitious57 but anyway

Unfortunately I cannot be that forthcoming because I simply do not have the required level of mental energy
You ask too me many questions and then you sometimes repeat them so I cannot keep up with you any more

surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:36 pm

Age wrote:
I wish though you were so forthcoming to answering my clarifying questions that are directed towards you surreptitious57 but anyway

Unfortunately I cannot be that forthcoming because I simply do not have the required level of mental energy

But I do NOT want 'you' to do any thing that 'you' think or BELIEVE 'you' can not do.

I also just expressed a WISH, (out loud) only AFTER I responded to some thing else.

Also, WHY can 'you' supposedly NOT be as forthcoming to answer questions posed to you as 'you' obviously were forthcoming to answer questions, which were obviously NOT posed to you?

surreptitious57 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:36 pmYou ask too me many questions and then you sometimes repeat them so I cannot keep up with you any more

In eternal Existence could there ever be "too many questions"?

Also, to me, NO "mental energy" is NEEDED to EVER be just Truly OPEN and Honest. Being Truly OPEN and Honest is just being thy True Self anyway.

Only in deception and/or being deceiving I can see where so called "mental energy" IS NEEDED.

Age wrote:
In eternal Existence could there ever be too many questions

Where they are asked of only one individual then there certainly can be
I cannot answer all of your questions simply because there are too many

Age wrote:
But I do NOT want you to do any thing that you think or BELIEVE you can not do

Then why not just leave me alone if that is true - is there some specific reason as why you do not leave me alone
There are others here you can interact with so why not engage with them instead of me - why cannot you do this