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bahman wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:16 pmFree will is not reducible to anything else. It is the ability of the mind, together with the ability to experience and cause. It is basic. Therefore, there is no mechanism for it.

bahman wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:16 pm Free will is not reducible to anything else. It is the ability of the mind, together with the ability to experience and cause. It is basic. Therefore, there is no mechanism for it.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:49 am

Sculptor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:57 am

henry quirk wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 1:49 am

liar

henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:54 am

bahman wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:16 pmFree will is not reducible to anything else. It is the ability of the mind, together with the ability to experience and cause. It is basic. Therefore, there is no mechanism for it.

Sculptor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:57 am

bahman wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:16 pm Free will is not reducible to anything else. It is the ability of the mind, together with the ability to experience and cause. It is basic. Therefore, there is no mechanism for it.

Self defeating

bahman wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:03 pm

Sculptor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:57 am

bahman wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:16 pm Free will is not reducible to anything else. It is the ability of the mind, together with the ability to experience and cause. It is basic. Therefore, there is no mechanism for it.

Self defeating

How?

bahman wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:03 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:54 am

bahman wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:16 pmFree will is not reducible to anything else. It is the ability of the mind, together with the ability to experience and cause. It is basic. Therefore, there is no mechanism for it.

So eventually one person in this forum agrees with another one!

Sculptor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:20 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:03 pm

Sculptor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:57 am

Self defeating

How?

Experience is a cause, and has mechanism. Everything you experience involves the movement of matter and energy.
You are making a bold and unfounded assertion in which you are placing yourself outside of the laws of nature.
It's idiotic. A fantasy invented by the religious and the legal profession as they are too irrational to make a decent argument for punishments.

bahman wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:43 pm

Sculptor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:20 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:03 pm
How?

Experience is a cause, and has mechanism. Everything you experience involves the movement of matter and energy.
You are making a bold and unfounded assertion in which you are placing yourself outside of the laws of nature.
It's idiotic. A fantasy invented by the religious and the legal profession as they are too irrational to make a decent argument for punishments.

So, matter moves and suddenly we have experience. Isn't that magic?

Sculptor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:47 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:43 pm

Sculptor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:20 pm

Experience is a cause, and has mechanism. Everything you experience involves the movement of matter and energy.
You are making a bold and unfounded assertion in which you are placing yourself outside of the laws of nature.
It's idiotic. A fantasy invented by the religious and the legal profession as they are too irrational to make a decent argument for punishments.

So, matter moves and suddenly we have experience. Isn't that magic?

According to you, yes, humans are all magical creatures who can act in spite of themselves outside the laws of nature.
So that no matter what their life has been, their education, their situation, their needs, desires and wants, they can magically ignore all that and randomly pick a course of action out of thin air like taking a rabbit from a hat.

What I am trying to tell you is that the rabbit was already in the hat.