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Luxin wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:24 am "Something that is not a thing" appears to me to be a contradiction. Is light such a 'something' in your view?
Yes, it sounds contradictory, but this is the "curse" of language - its inherently dualistic - all we can talk about are things and pointing at something that is not-a-thing (not part of the world of things) is an awkward task. It is prone to sound contradictory...
To answer your question: Yes, light (in the way we conventionally use the word), is a thing.
Here is a rule of thumb: As long as you can find an opposite to something it is a thing (eg the opposite of light is dark) - if it doesn't have an opposite it is not-a-thing.
As such, all we can talk about are things - but we can point at "no-things" (like "consciousness" or "infinity"), but we do this using language which (unfortunately) objectifies the non objective.
Luxin wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:24 am If your answer to Q2 is no, would you prefer to use the term "phenomena" for light or sound?
Sure, you can use "phenomena" for light or sound, but it doesn't change what I said above.
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Thank you Luxin.
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