Philosophy Now Forum

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:18 pm

Walker wrote: ↑Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:04 pm Can't God change rules of physics?

I don't know.

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Some physics restrictions could be delusions.

QuantumT wrote: ↑Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:18 pm And then the "gods" hit Enter

Memes are as real as genes.

Proof in as few as two words and people still can’t grasp it. Proof is easy, but it is also useless to all but an open mind.

TimeSeeker wrote: ↑Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:00 pm
The word "I" is recursive/self-referential.
You compute therefore you are (Descartes was SO close)

I have thoughts therefore I have an ego.

There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking
makes it so.

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Reflex wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:17 am Proof in as few as two words and people still can’t grasp it. Proof is easy, but it is also useless to all but an open mind.

True.

I AM = irrefutable truth.

I AM this? = lie/ a belief.

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Walker wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:25 am Existence does not require a believer.

A believer is that which separates you from the truth ... Words are no more than signposts.

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Devoid of doctrine or religious belief systems, the pristine essence of all Truth is revealed in it's purity with unprecedented clarity. It becomes clear that to truly ''know'' is to ''be''rather than to ''know about.'' Silence speaks a thousand words. Silence speaks the loudest.

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Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Jan 01, 1970 1:00 am I have thoughts therefore I have an ego.

There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking
makes it so.

I am not passing any moral judgment. I don’t believe in objective morality.

How are thoughts different to ego? Said differently: suppose you had thoughts but no ego what difference would I observe?

Is your possession of an ego a falsifiable belief? w.g could you be mistaken, and if so what observation would convince you of your error?

TimeSeeker wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:13 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Thu Jan 01, 1970 1:00 am I have thoughts therefore I have an ego.

There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking
makes it so.

I am not passing any moral judgment. I don’t believe in objective morality.

How are thoughts different to ego? Said differently: suppose you had thoughts but no ego what difference would I observe?

Is your possession of an ego a falsifiable belief? w.g could you be mistaken, and if so what observation would convince you of your error?

The I AM isn't a thought. It doesn't require thought to be, it's the thoughtless, stateless, unborn state prior to knowledge.

Knowledge is of the mind, it's ego.



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Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:24 pm The I AM isn't a thought. It doesn't require thought to be, it's the thoughtless, stateless, unborn state prior to knowledge.

Knowledge is aof the mind, it's ego.

I don't have any knowledge though? I have a bunch of theories and a bunch of mental models.

They help me make predictions.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:24 pm The I AM isn't a thought. It doesn't require thought to be, it's the thoughtless, stateless, unborn state prior to knowledge.

But you typed the "I am". And I am sure you can't operate your muscles without thought/mind/brain/<whatever you want to call it>

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:24 am One must be first before other.

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Nope that's just possible proof that your mind is closed and/or that it's warped.

TimeSeeker wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:28 pm

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:24 pm The I AM isn't a thought. It doesn't require thought to be, it's the thoughtless, stateless, unborn state prior to knowledge.

But you typed the "I am". And I am sure you can't operate your muscles without thought/mind/brain/<whatever you want to call it>

No conceptual thing known is typing, typing is just happening spontaneoulsy.

Similarly no conceptual thing known is growing the grass, or growing the human baby from one cell into millions of cells.

Creation is of the mind, an intelligent rational mind that knows. That mind is not human. But the human has somehow hijacked it and claimed it...that's the ego.

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Dontaskme wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:46 pm That mind is not human. But the human has somehow hijacked it and claimed it...that's the ego.

Heh. I don't even know what an "human" is. I mean - I know it's a label we've slapped on each other, but I don't understand the essence of humanity.

I reserve judgment about the mind. I have no idea how it works...