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G: "We can pretend that climate change won't have a catastrophic impact on all societies this century."
H: We can pretend that we've had a significant effect on climate and the only solution is draconian oversight by the 'enlightened' technocrats of the politburo.
G. Yes, deny the science like a good little drone.
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G. "We can pretend that extinctions don't matter."
H: We can pretend that's our fault too and prostrate ourselves before those who promise to solve the problem, the folks who are just a bit more 'equal' than all the rest of us (the politburo).
G: Again, you deny the science.
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G: "We can pretend that increasing the carbon in the atmosphere does not increase heating."
H: We can pretend current, on-going conditions are unique, our fault, and can only be alleviated by politburo-directed efforts.
G: Again you deny the science. You don't even have the slightest clue what CO2 is or how it contributes to warming of the atmosphere, do you? Seemingly, if Murdoch and Fox say humans had nothing to do with it then that's good enough for you.
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G: "We can pretend that fast food burgers are as healthy as low fat, low meat options."
H: We can pretend free men and women don't have the right to eat garbage (and accept the full consequences of their dietary choices).
G: Irrelevant. I was talking about the denial, those who deny that junk food is less healthy - like Trump. I don't give a damn what you eat.
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G: "We can pretend that worldviews only consist of CNN v Fox, that the petty fights in the US are the main game on planet Earth."
H: We can pretend the existance of LEFT and RIGHT doesn't, in fact, speak deeply (if poorly) as to Man's nature (the competitive and cooperative impulses; the hunger for patterns; the foundational desire to shape (rule) the world).
We can pretend the US isn't the most glorious, kick-ass, nation to come down the pike, ever (not perfect, just the goddamned BEST).
G: US is increasingly divided, angry and dysfunctional. A once-great empire laid low by hubris, as they all do. The US could complete the transition to a Republican theocratic state and that is not going to make China, Russia, Europe and India to follow suit - and that is most of the world.
You guys are deluded as to your power and influence and that's why you keep picking fights with small fleabag countries and getting your butts royally kicked every time!
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G: "We can pretend that Fox is not the most blatantly dishonest and manipulative of western mainstream media by a considerable margin."
H: We can pretend every other news outlet some how, some way, isn't equally guilty of dishonesty, manipulation (cuz thos folks at CNN, they're 'good').
G: Classic moral relativism. CNN is biased but Murdoch media's bias is outrageous- and far more ubiquitous.
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G: "reality will have final say."
H: Indeed. I got five sez I'm closer in my assessment of 'what is' than you.
G: Henry, I'm sure you believe that. However, as a Murdoch media drone, you have no credibility. I mean, just the smallest level of discrimination will reveal the outrageous propagandism. It's basically Pravda for the west.
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G: "The irony is that Murdoch and Trump will be insulated from the problems they are worsening, resulting in worse lives for the children of their acolytes, most of whom lack the protection of great wealth."
H: No, the irony is Trump is doin' (mostly) good and a good chunk of the folks who are benefitin' are too indoctrinated to see it, and would hang the guy just cuz he is who he is.
G: His type is well known.
Working in HR on watched CEOs land the top job with a seemingly impressive track record. The person will go through the place with a "new broom" and implement short term strategies so they appear competent until they find another job, using the short term gains as part of the resume. Once they leave the job, it doesn't matter - to them. Then their short-term approach bites and there is a sharp downturn, usually due to infrastructure and staff anorexia induced for the sake of short term gains.
That's what I think is going on. You think otherwise.
So I predict that in the following administration's first term (whether GOP or Dem) there will be a sharp downturn, a recession or another crash, due to infrastructure shortfalls and flow on effects from mismanagement of natural resources.
You, as a Trump fan, must predict that his "mostly good" policies will continue to bear fruit even after he leaves - as good policies do - at least until the next administration's policies come into effect. Let me know if you see something different for the US.
Definite measures rather than rhetorical fluff. So let's see where the substance lies; once it's on the table the only place to hide is in the other's forgetting. One rule: no matter which way it goes, no whining about celebrating when people are undergoing misfortune. I should be able to celebrate a little when I win
