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Harbal wrote:Up with workers. Down with Capitalism.

bobevenson wrote: You'd fit right in at Berkeley.

Immanuel Can wrote:

Hobbes' Choice wrote:If I shoot Hilter in the face I become a hero in England, if I do the same to Churchill somehow I'm evil.
The World's gone PC MAD!!

Well, whether or not it's right to shoot anybody in the face (or anywhere else) is an important question, isn't it? And that realization parallels the one I'm asking:

Why does the Left attract such lunatics?

bobevenson wrote:

Harbal wrote:Up with workers. Down with Capitalism.

You'd fit right in at Berkeley.

uwot wrote:

Hobbes' Choice wrote:If I shoot Hilter in the face I become a hero in England, if I do the same to Churchill somehow I'm evil.
The World's gone PC MAD!!

It's wasted on Mr Can. He won't get it.

Hobbes' Choice wrote:

bobevenson wrote:

Harbal wrote:Up with workers. Down with Capitalism.

You'd fit right in at Berkeley.

Hahaha. Like that is some sort of insult.

Harbal wrote:

bobevenson wrote: You'd fit right in at Berkeley.

They say ignorance is bliss.

Harbal wrote:

bobevenson wrote: You'd fit right in at Berkeley.

I sense I'm supposed to be offended by that and maybe I would be if I knew what Berkely was, who knows? They say ignorance is bliss.

bobevenson wrote: That's another thing you're a perfect example of.

Impenitent wrote:
the bishop's shadow knows...

-Imp

Hobbes' Choice wrote:

uwot wrote:

Hobbes' Choice wrote:If I shoot Hilter in the face I become a hero in England, if I do the same to Churchill somehow I'm evil.
The World's gone PC MAD!!

It's wasted on Mr Can. He won't get it.

His response proves you right.

Immanuel Can wrote:... A reasoned debate would be much more productive. ...

Immanuel Can wrote:... So I would really have to find a comparable expression of "right wing" shutting down of debate. I'd just find that quite hard to do right now. ...

Why does the Left attract such lunatics?

wtf wrote:

Immanuel Can wrote:I've just read that a speech at Berkeley was shut down by a gang of (apparently) Leftist thugs smashing windows and setting fires.

The national reporting of this incident is sensationalistic because that's what the viewers want to see. And Fox News is all in with the hysteria of course.

These "Black Bloc" morons, as they call themselves, are the ones who show up after dark to break windows and start fires. And grab the narrative. During Occupy, 50,000 people staged a totally peaceful protest at the Port of Oakland all day long. After dark, the "anarchists" came out, broke windows and set fires, and the riot cops came in with teargas. What do you think was on tv the next day?

Berkeley is the next town over from Oakland. The troublemakers take the BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) and trash the campus. The visuals are great. The story goes worldwide.

That's what 20 or 30 morons can do, the exact same morons and probably a lot of the exact same people I saw at Occupy five years ago. It's a damn shame. They are "leftists" in the sense that they spout all the PC rhetoric. But they're not political. Breaking windows is their politics. It's all they stand for.

That said, I do think the left is at some point going to have to take a stand for civility. The Oakland Black Bloc has gone way over the line and it's time for the adults to stand up and say Enough.

And it's in the left's interest to disown and condemn this violence. Because FOX News LOVES the violence. It undermines the left's cause. If the country has to choose between Trump and morons setting fires, it will choose Trump.

Hobbes' Choice wrote:What you are asking is irrelevant. I posed a ridiculous dichotomy to reflect your one..