What is intuition?

[HexHammer]

I think the solution is like this. You have many processes in your brain which they are all unconscious. These processes however create different physical states. Consciousness is a specific physical state. In another word, we experience something when a physical state forms a specific form such that it could lead to experience. There is no movement involved.

Hapless nonsense and babble!!

Why you are always so negative? I think you need to read a little about physics (most importantly) and psychology to understand what do I mean.

I've read lots, and I know you need to read more, because everything you posts are pure nonsense and babble, you even need me to explain what you could easily look up in a dictionary.

[Walker]

There are four properties for mind: (1) Instinct, (2) Intuition, (3) Logic and (4) Wisdom.

These are my definition of the properties and I am open to discuss them.

1) Instinct: The main driving force in any being.
3) Logic: The capacity to deduce things in term of other things.
4) Wisdom: The ability to guess what could be right or wrong to do which is based on all our experiences in our lives.

I am missing a definition for intuition and I hope we can discuss and reach to an agreement on that.

Definitions are ad hoc for the benefit of those who can benefit from them. There are some usages of 'intuition' which are popular and ephemeral. I dislike those imprecise usages because intuition as defined for and by neuroscientists and psychologists is useful for tending towards increase in human cognitive and affective abilities.

Predictive repeatability is an important aspect of science and understanding of linear, time-bound causality. And if one pays attention to intuition, one can live the future in current echoes of present experience and be conscious that this is happening.

When examined more closely, predictive repeatability as applied to the usefulness of intuition involves trust and self-monitoring. Trust in knowledge that arrives via intuition, usually as feeling, sometimes psychological and sometimes psychological and physical. Self-monitoring is so that attention doesn’t wander from the outcome of the intuition. Interest makes self-monitoring effective because the purpose of the attention placement is perpetually remembered.

Predictive repeatability of intuition is learned when an arbitrary importance is attached to witnessing the outcome of events when intuition is felt. Once this feedback is established and the validity of particular instances of intuition is established through monitoring experience, then the body takes over. For instance, if you have a bad feeling about something and then something bad happens, in the future you can test this bad feeling again, and by the monitored results begin to gain trust in the intuition, for future monitoring. Once you get the hang of it then the monitoring is superfluous.

Eventually, the whispers of intuition become quite noticeable, so that folks sometimes say the universe is speaking to them. Shouting at them. Of course one must be cautious of delusion and projection, which is why the association of physical feelings with past instances of intuition is necessary to establish the physical validity. The survival instinct’s tendency to seize advantages causes a biofeedback loop to naturally set up so that the body reacts to intuition in noticeable ways in order to alert attention that somethin’s up. Spider sense literally starts tingling.

For instance, during one period of life I would feel a lot of physical movement at the crown of my head that alerted me that something was gonna happen. And something always did. It turns up in little stuff, like finding an unknown turn on a country road without a map. And it turns up in big stuff, too.

Intuition can play a role in allowing one to say, “I’m glad that I did that,” rather than saying, “I wish I had done that, ” particularly when one surrenders to an unexpected delay in travel thus missing the accident.

[Hobbes' Choice]

There are four properties for mind: (1) Instinct, (2) Intuition, (3) Logic and (4) Wisdom.

These are my definition of the properties and I am open to discuss them.

1) Instinct: The main driving force in any being.
3) Logic: The capacity to deduce things in term of other things.
4) Wisdom: The ability to guess what could be right or wrong to do which is based on all our experiences in our lives.

I am missing a definition for intuition and I hope we can discuss and reach to an agreement on that.

Most definitions of intuition hold that its an instinctively derived solution or knowledge. My take on the notion is that it is used by those without a formal discipline in reasonable thinking arrive at ideas where they know not their source, yet are in fact reasoned from the subconscious. Whereas a person versed in reason will also derive such solutions but is capable of verifying their worth formally.
It is a mistaken notion that such ideas from intuition stem from an extra-mental source. Such a thing as "women's intuition" is wholly mistaken, and conforms exactly to the idea above.

[bahman]

There are four properties for mind: (1) Instinct, (2) Intuition, (3) Logic and (4) Wisdom.

These are my definition of the properties and I am open to discuss them.

1) Instinct: The main driving force in any being.
3) Logic: The capacity to deduce things in term of other things.
4) Wisdom: The ability to guess what could be right or wrong to do which is based on all our experiences in our lives.

I am missing a definition for intuition and I hope we can discuss and reach to an agreement on that.

Most definitions of intuition hold that its an instinctively derived solution or knowledge. My take on the notion is that it is used by those without a formal discipline in reasonable thinking arrive at ideas where they know not their source, yet are in fact reasoned from the subconscious. Whereas a person versed in reason will also derive such solutions but is capable of verifying their worth formally.
It is a mistaken notion that such ideas from intuition stem from an extra-mental source. Such a thing as "women's intuition" is wholly mistaken, and conforms exactly to the idea above.

How your definition is different from wisdom?

[Hobbes' Choice]

There are four properties for mind: (1) Instinct, (2) Intuition, (3) Logic and (4) Wisdom.

These are my definition of the properties and I am open to discuss them.

1) Instinct: The main driving force in any being.
3) Logic: The capacity to deduce things in term of other things.
4) Wisdom: The ability to guess what could be right or wrong to do which is based on all our experiences in our lives.

I am missing a definition for intuition and I hope we can discuss and reach to an agreement on that.

Most definitions of intuition hold that its an instinctively derived solution or knowledge. My take on the notion is that it is used by those without a formal discipline in reasonable thinking arrive at ideas where they know not their source, yet are in fact reasoned from the subconscious. Whereas a person versed in reason will also derive such solutions but is capable of verifying their worth formally.
It is a mistaken notion that such ideas from intuition stem from an extra-mental source. Such a thing as "women's intuition" is wholly mistaken, and conforms exactly to the idea above.

How your definition is different from wisdom?

I suppose you'd have to take the trouble to read it.

[bahman]

I suppose you'd have to take the trouble to read it.

I read it carefully. My trouble however is that we cannot have intuition on a subject matter without training our subconscious mind. So I don't see how your definition of intuition is different from my definition of wisdom.

[Hobbes' Choice]

I suppose you'd have to take the trouble to read it.

I read it carefully. My trouble however is that we cannot have intuition on a subject matter without training our subconscious mind. So I don't see how your definition of intuition is different from my definition of wisdom.

You cannot actively train the subconscious. That's why they call it subconscious. It continues to act without us being aware of it.

It's easy enough to argue that the subconscious directs everything we do, yet we have no direct command of it. All our thoughts and desires emerge from there, and we simply think that we have chosen, or reasoned.

[Belinda]

Hobbes Choice wrote:

Most definitions of intuition hold that its an instinctively derived solution or knowledge. My take on the notion is that it is used by those without a formal discipline in reasonable thinking arrive at ideas where they know not their source, yet are in fact reasoned from the subconscious. Whereas a person versed in reason will also derive such solutions but is capable of verifying their worth formally.
It is a mistaken notion that such ideas from intuition stem from an extra-mental source. Such a thing as "women's intuition" is wholly mistaken, and conforms exactly to the idea above.

"Women's intuition" is not entirely a mistaken notion.
Even old superstitions and outmoded rationales (such as the divine right of kings) are forms of reason. Women have to try to live without the social power , the reasoned power the moneyed power, and the upshot is that women have tended to develop their intuition to compensate for this lack.

I disagree with Hobbes that focused reasoning and unfocused reasoning are mutually exclusive. Reason should however exert sufficient restraint so that one is wary of beware of confusing intuition with such as wishful thinking or physical fatigue.

As for how to develop intuition the best use for prayer possibly is the development of intuition, but only if the prayer is devoid of ego.

[Walker]

I suppose you'd have to take the trouble to read it.

I read it carefully. My trouble however is that we cannot have intuition on a subject matter without training our subconscious mind. So I don't see how your definition of intuition is different from my definition of wisdom.

You cannot actively train the subconscious. That's why they call it subconscious. It continues to act without us being aware of it.

It's easy enough to argue that the subconscious directs everything we do, yet we have no direct command of it. All our thoughts and desires emerge from there, and we simply think that we have chosen, or reasoned.

The reason the world is so whacky is because the subconscious is purposely targeted to create the imbalance of attachment, desire and aversion. The movement toward desire and away from aversion is what keeps society in motion. There is much less cause for motion in modern times. Less manual labor, less food preparation, less pounding the wash down on the river rocks, less walking. Less motion. The subconscious targeting motivates motion to verk, and motion is the mechanism that differentiates society from a concept. With all the conveniences, without the needs caused by the imbalances, folks likely wouldn't venture out of the cave.

Chaos and destruction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt1W0F0yObg


“A remarkable thing about cult mind control is that it’s so ordinary in the tactics and strategies of social influence employed. They are variants of well-known social psychological principles of compliance, conformity, persuasion, dissonance, reactance, framing, emotional manipulation, and others that are used on all of us daily to entice us: to buy, to try, to donate, to vote, to join, to change, to believe, to love, to hate the enemy.
Cult mind control is not different in kind from these everyday varieties, but in its greater intensity, persistence, duration, and scope. One difference is in its greater efforts to block quitting the group, by imposing high exit costs, replete with induced phobias of harm, failure, and personal isolation.”
– Source: Phillip G. Zimbardo, Ph.D., What Is The Message Behind Today’s Cults?, American Psychological Association Monitor, May 1997
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[Belinda]

Walker.

Most excellent post !

[bahman]

You cannot actively train the subconscious. That's why they call it subconscious. It continues to act without us being aware of it.

This I know.

It's easy enough to argue that the subconscious directs everything we do, yet we have no direct command of it. All our thoughts and desires emerge from there, and we simply think that we have chosen, or reasoned.

This I know too. But you didn't answer my question.

[Hobbes' Choice]

Hobbes Choice wrote:

Most definitions of intuition hold that its an instinctively derived solution or knowledge. My take on the notion is that it is used by those without a formal discipline in reasonable thinking arrive at ideas where they know not their source, yet are in fact reasoned from the subconscious. Whereas a person versed in reason will also derive such solutions but is capable of verifying their worth formally.
It is a mistaken notion that such ideas from intuition stem from an extra-mental source. Such a thing as "women's intuition" is wholly mistaken, and conforms exactly to the idea above.

"Women's intuition" is not entirely a mistaken notion. .

Urumph!

[Hobbes' Choice]

This I know too. But you didn't answer my question.

I take it you think that my view of subconscious is the same as this "The ability to guess what could be right or wrong to do which is based on all our experiences in our lives."; Wisdom.?

The difference is between the container and the contained.

[bahman]

I take it you think that my view of subconscious is the same as this "The ability to guess what could be right or wrong to do which is based on all our experiences in our lives."; Wisdom.?

No. I don't think like that. I already gave the definition of wisdom.

The difference is between the container and the contained.

I ask for difference between wisdom and intuition given the definitions, mine wisdom, yours intuition.

[Walker]

Walker.

Most excellent post !

Thank you!