sthitapragya wrote:attofishpi wrote:sthitapragya wrote:
What does it mean to be the Christ? What is the significance of being the Christ? What if he had not been the Christ and just been Jesus? Would what he said become less valuable? Suppose Jesus had just been a man claiming to be God? Would what he said be less true? Do you believe in what he said because he is the Christ or because it sounds true to you?
Hi sthit..welcome back.
This is the only way i am going to be able to explain this i think - so i have to get personal about my past.
When i was quite young i had two abortions with a partner that i was seeing on and off. Why she didnt take the pill - i dont know - why i didnt wear a condom - is usually obvious.
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Many years later reality started to kick me in the balls - the head - everywhere. I would walk to work i had a good job in IT in the city and all the way along the street strangers would call out "You're gone!" "He knows!" "Geek!" "Bigot!"
I knew it was irrational to consider that these people were doing this - that somehow the entire city had conspired to 'fuck' me over. I was abreast in theories of physics re alternate dimensions - and always believed that if there is a God - it would operate via the laws of physics...so my rational explanation was...this was God...my irrational explanation although 19yrs ago was very much at the forefront of my mind, was that im going crazy - and this IS ALL in my mind. I did see a shrink - a psychosis was the narrative.
The next day after work I went to church - i was raised a Catholic - tho my parents were pretty much atheist so fuck knows why. St Francis Xavier - a massive church in the centre of the city. I kneeled at a pew, "Ah, he's praying" was said in a spitefool manner. I started going over my past and saying my sorrys. The church was empty but when i stood there was a note on the bench in front of me - that hadnt, or i admit, i hadnt noticed before. It read "Novena to the sacred heart of Jesus Christ, say this prayer to six friends and .." something i cant remember - i lost the note eventually. Needless to say - i wasnt going to start preaching to my friends or tell them the shit that was going down. - I did tell a couple of trusted friends of course as to what i was experiencing.
That was 1997 ...anyway many many years later and after MUCH worse experiences where i crossed a certain line, it was finally informed to me that "YOU TOOK LIFE.."
Eventually - 2005 - the "sage" introduced himself to me from the aether - but by then - i had already suffered and even still cant recall just how unimaginable the torment was especially in 2003 where i attempted suicide. I gave God the oppotunity after taking a pile of sleeping pills and alcohol and hooking up the exhaust of my car to the interior.
I woke up in bed feeling fine. My car had rolled down and hit the shed with the door open i had a flat car battery.. On my dining room wall was a pencil 'scribble' drawing of an old wizard cradling either a child or the solar system. - I DID NOT DRAW IT! It was awesome - it looked like it had been scribbled so fast but the look on the 'wizards' face as he looked down at whatever he was craddling was amazing - of course - everyone thinks i did it. I had took a photo but have lost it somewhere probably on an old HDD.
I haven't got there yet....do you still want my answer re Christ!!!??
Yes, I still want an answer because what you described is a personal experience. I don't think keeping you alive proves or says anything about God. It might say something about some supernatural being looking out for you but considering the big picture of the universe, what happened to you is not something that sounds like something God would do.
So yes, all my questions still stand unanswered.
Good, im glad you want this answered.
Let me advise - as you state my post proves nothing re God's existence - it can't, i just wanted you to understand the nature of perhaps how\why i KNOW.
Now for the important part re Christ, as i am being tapped on my right shoulder.
So i 'took life' - my own children in fact as i agreed to abortions. We can agree not all abortionists are put through what God did to me, and made aware of 'its' existence - so perhaps there is another story there - one that neither you or i are aware of - but i have been informed of something quite significant of my past life.
To point out - in more recent years God\sage informed me that i did not 'take life' that these 'souls' are now living. Recursion comes to mind, but i again digress.
So here i am .. i have taken life, human life - somewhere i came from, something that perhaps should be eternal if there is a God.
As i have posted, this God literally tortured\tormented me especially between the years 1997 to 2013 - but mostly 2003. So how can i ever forgive this entity for what IT did to me? How can i ever want to live again - where i might make the same mistakes, and be subject to the same torture.
Well, Christ did this one thing, a torture sure that probably was complete over 24hrs and at times i wished that was my fate rather than what i was put through sometimes for months on end while trying to appear 'normal' to work and friends.
Well, now that i have peace - even though i took life, even though God tortured me to what i consider the extent of Christs suffering.
I can now still love God\Christ - because this is what life is,
reason for existence, animals have it and fight for it...well so do we humans. Christ's suffering PERMITS me to forgive THEM - God\Christ...in fact with what has been suggested for my future re heaven - which i have experienced - far less than hell, its not very often, but i do LOVE Christ, he gave reason to what i went through, he gave us understanding of life beyond life.
You stated that what happened to me 'sounds like something that God would not do to someone'...
I know. The priests these days - always preaching the new testament - Have a look at God in the Old Testament - not that i buy bull...but 'He' 'IT' was truly rather nasty.
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