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Posted: **Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:55 pm**

henry quirk wrote:If the price is reasonable, you got a deal.

As you know, Reasonable could very well have been my middle name.

Posted: **Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:58 pm**

Yeah! Reasonably insane.

Posted: **Sat Aug 13, 2016 1:22 am**

henry quirk wrote:If elections were viewed properly (as hiring an employee instead of installing a noble)
Actually I've never seen them as nobles, more like a boss or CEO.

then voters, americans, america might get the kind of practical, minimalist, public service (and servants) it needs.
It's true that they have always been those that consider themselves the upper crust, having positioned themselves such that it can always be that way. That lobbying is legal shows what they really are, thieves of the poorer people, pawns of the richest, as they're bought and sold, devoid of any real ethical considerations.

But, noooooooo...

There seems to be an unattractive aspect of the human psyche that craves 'leaders' and 'directors' and 'governors',
In their beginning, I seriously doubt it was those that were led which created such words with such meanings.

that wants some one else to say what's what.
That way they have someone to blame when the shit hits the fan, other than themselves.

Me: I want proxies, servants, employees...folks who shut the fuck up and do the work they were hired to do...folks who never lose sight of being employees and who evidence the appropriate humility as employees.
I don't believe either side of the equation deserve or should be marginalized or worshiped. That would simply be more of the same bullshit.

Not seein' why so many find being 'the governed' a good thing...not seein how a 'need' for governance is a good thing.
Agreed!

Posted: **Sat Aug 13, 2016 1:50 pm**

henry quirk wrote:If elections were viewed properly (as hiring an employee instead of installing a noble) then voters, americans, america might get the kind of practical, minimalist, public service (and servants) it needs.

But, noooooooo...

There seems to be an unattractive aspect of the human psyche that craves 'leaders' and 'directors' and 'governors', that wants some one else to say what's what.

Me: I want proxies, servants, employees...folks who shut the fuck up and do the work they were hired to do...folks who never lose sight of being employees and who evidence the appropriate humility as employees.

Not seein' why so many find being 'the governed' a good thing...not seein how a 'need' for governance is a good thing.

It's because governing yourself and taking responsibility for your own actions seems to be a more and more difficult thing for most people to do nowadays. Most people are still like children in needing guidance mostly because they weren't raised in a way that enables them to be more self-sufficient and responsible.

It is my opinion that most of society's problems are a result of bad, or a lack of, parenting, and this results in people developing with too much attention given to them (they're spoiled and think that their needs are more of a priority than the needs of others), or not enough attention given to them (and they will do almost anything to get attention).

People who are also raised without any sense of self-worth, or who were raised to believe everyone is out to get them and put them down, or that the world just isn't fair and that you will never be able to succeed, are those people who are easily offended and are a threat to free speech. Most people aren't offended by a joke that makes fun of them in some way, or generalizes a particular group of people. Many people can laugh at self-deprecating humor. Some don't and find it offensive. Because some do and some don't means that words spoken that results in someone being offended isn't a universal immoral act. Because of this difference means we should be looking at the reasons why some are offended by the same speech that others aren't offended by, and I propose that the reason is because they have a depleted sense of worth about themselves. They give to much power to others to define them.

"I have gained this by philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law."
- Aristotle

This quote by Aristotle points out that laws are designed for stupid people. When someone does something stupid, it limits the liberty of everyone else because then the govt. expands it's power by making more laws. This is how the govt. acquires more power - by taking advantage of mishaps and disasters to expand it's power in an attempt to control more of the population. By dumbing down the population and by promoting a lack of responsibility for your actions (it's always someone else's fault), and by directing the population's hatred against other citizens (Democrat vs. Republican, Liberal vs. Conservative) rather than at the govt. itself for it's abuse of power and corruption, the govt. is slowly and silently acquiring more power that will spell the end for individual liberties.

Posted: **Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:16 pm**

Good posting.

Question:
In the linked example, without a law banning what she did, would what she did be inherently wrong, all things considered?

http://www.modernhiker.com/2014/10/23/w ... -big-deal/

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2016 3:11 pm**

I would say that what she did is wrong because she doesn't own the medium in which she is using to make her art. National Parks are for all of us to enjoy and to experience the natural world without being exposed to someone's self-centered grab for attention. Why couldn't she just have drawn these pictures on paper while hiking and then post them on the internet for others to see, and share her art that way? This seems to be one of those examples of people thinking their wants and needs supersede the wants and needs of others.

Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2016 5:28 pm**

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Posted: **Sun Aug 14, 2016 5:48 pm**

Par-tay!!! (Awesome pics of child abuse, btw.

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Yet another person who has proven not fit to breed.

Posted: **Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:10 pm**

Walker wrote:Good posting.

Question:
In the linked example, without a law banning what she did, would what she did be inherently wrong, all things considered?

http://www.modernhiker.com/2014/10/23/w ... -big-deal/

She wants to doodle, she can bring a sketchbook.

Posted: **Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:36 pm**

I'm gonna go to hiker chick's house and 'express myself' on her walls and see how she likes it.

Posted: **Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:51 pm**

"When someone does something stupid, it limits the liberty of everyone else because then the govt. expands it's power by making more laws."

Yep.

I live in south Louisiana. Past few days we've had a godawful amount of rain and now have flooding. Civil authorities, over and over, encouraged folks to be sensible and stay off the roads. For one, driving through flood waters is liable to leave a body stranded when the car dies. For another, driving through flood waters stirs up a wake that goes plowing into homes making the bad, worse.

So what did a great many of my fellow Louisianians do? Drive through flood waters, get stranded, get rescued by an already strained EMS and police system; and, cause thousands of more dollars in damage to homes already flooded.

What did local government do in response? Issue curfews to restrain idiots who won't restrain themselves, idiots who now complain about the restraint.

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2016 2:21 am**

Walker wrote:Good posting.

Question:
In the linked example, without a law banning what she did, would what she did be inherently wrong, all things considered?

http://www.modernhiker.com/2014/10/23/w ... -big-deal/

Very interesting article. There was also a link on it to these morons:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b23-OxLUkE

As for 'creepytings', it seems like more of a case of ignorance than blatant vandalism. Face it, humans leave a filthy mess wherever they go. Apparently Mt. Everest is like a landfill, with all the litter and crap left behind. Even the moon isn't safe from us.

Posted: **Thu Aug 18, 2016 11:25 pm**

Shouldn't be doing that in a national park. Can't take things out of the park, either. It's protected land.

The feds have claimed a lot of land in the West to protect. It's always a grand event but it's really just a land grab for control through taxation, permits, and restrictions. Water rights and mineral rights.

Safety tips.

What Should You Do If Protestors Surround Your Car?
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/protes ... le_8-15-16

The past eight years have caused this.

Posted: **Fri Aug 19, 2016 1:17 am**

Walker wrote:Shouldn't be doing that in a national park. Can't take things out of the park, either. It's protected land.

The feds have claimed a lot of land in the West to protect. It's always a grand event but it's really just a land grab for control through taxation, permits, and restrictions. Water rights and mineral rights.

Safety tips.

What Should You Do If Protestors Surround Your Car?
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/protes ... le_8-15-16

The past eight years have caused this.

More yank paranoia. What's wrong with a bit of patience? Or do you live in Somalia?

Posted: **Fri Aug 19, 2016 4:49 pm**

Dalek Prime wrote:Par-tay!!! (Awesome pics of child abuse, btw. )

Yet another person who has proven not fit to breed.

Is he advocating, or contrasting for your benefit?

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