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bobevenson wrote:

Philosophy Explorer wrote:

bobevenson wrote: The only acceptable proof, my friend, is hard, cold cash.

I'm not your friend. PhilX

My friend, and you are my friend, and don't say you're not my friend, because nobody tells me who my friends are!

I repeat, I'm not your friend. Satan is.

PhilX

Sorry VT, I think your thread has gone the way of PN.

Which is a shame, I think Monbiot's piece is lazy and bad in important ways. But I'm not sure I wish to donate the reasoning behind that to Bob.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:The market ensures that everyone gets what they deserve.

Truer words were never spoken.

bobevenson wrote:

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:The market ensures that everyone gets what they deserve.

Truer words were never spoken.

Moron. I knew you would latch onto that. He was describing 'neoliberalism' in an ironic way. He's not saying it himself! This is where education comes in handy; it helps with reading comprehension. I suppose the writer just assumed that those reading his piece would be reasonably intelligent.

FlashDangerpants wrote:Sorry VT, I think your thread has gone the way of PN.

Which is a shame, I think Monbiot's piece is lazy and bad in important ways. But I'm not sure I wish to donate the reasoning behind that to Bob.

I don't see that there's anything to dispute. The evidence is everywhere.

bobevenson wrote:

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Some people are just good at making money and nothing else.

Sorry, but making money is the only proof that a person is making a contribution to society.

Bloody fool. Many of the greatest contributors to human achievement died paupers, barely recognised in their own time. The genuinely 'great' don't do what they do for monetary gain--quite the opposite in fact. The Amercian obsession with using money, and only money, as a yardstick for success is more of a hindrance to creativity than a help. Your country has become like a giant, spoilt brat child, fed only on junk, having huge tantrums every time it doesn't get it own way.

bobevenson wrote:Sorry, but making money is the only proof that a person is making a contribution to society.

How do you make money bob?

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:

bobevenson wrote:

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:Some people are just good at making money and nothing else.

Sorry, but making money is the only proof that a person is making a contribution to society.

Bloody fool. Many of the greatest contributors to human achievement died paupers, barely recognised in their own time. The genuinely 'great' don't do what they do for monetary gain--quite the opposite in fact.

If people do things out of the goodness of their heart, that's great. But people who do things to make a lot of money probably make a greater contribution to mankind. Guys like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and Mark Zuckerberg, to name a few. My biggest complaint against them is their stupid agreement to give away most of their fortune, when investing it in profit-making companies would do far more good.

bobevenson wrote:

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:

bobevenson wrote: Sorry, but making money is the only proof that a person is making a contribution to society.

Bloody fool. Many of the greatest contributors to human achievement died paupers, barely recognised in their own time. The genuinely 'great' don't do what they do for monetary gain--quite the opposite in fact.

If people do things out of the goodness of their heart, that's great. But people who do things to make a lot of money probably make a greater contribution to mankind. Guys like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and Mark Zuckerberg, to name a few. My biggest complain against them is their stupid agreement to give away most of their fortune, when investing it in profit-making companies would do far more good.

Right. And of course they 'invented' the computer. You really don't have either a brain OR a soul do you.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:

bobevenson wrote:

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Bloody fool. Many of the greatest contributors to human achievement died paupers, barely recognised in their own time. The genuinely 'great' don't do what they do for monetary gain--quite the opposite in fact.

If people do things out of the goodness of their heart, that's great. But people who do things to make a lot of money probably make a greater contribution to mankind. Guys like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and Mark Zuckerberg, to name a few. My biggest complaint against them is their stupid agreement to give away most of their fortune, when investing it in profit-making companies would do far more good.

Right. And of course they 'invented' the computer. You really don't have either a brain OR a soul do you.

I'm a prophet, aren't I?

bobevenson wrote: I'm a prophet, aren't I?

NO

bobevenson wrote:But people who do things to make a lot of money probably make a greater contribution to mankind. Guys like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and Mark Zuckerberg, to name a few. ...

But they didn't do these things to make a lot of money did they. They did them because they saw a technological opportunity that might or might not make a business but money wasn't their driver, it rarely is with inventors.

My biggest complaint against them is their stupid agreement to give away most of their fortune, when investing it in profit-making companies would do far more good.[/size][/b]

Well first of all there is no 'agreement' between them and secondly these are those you say are the greatest contributors but apparently they are also stupid?

What do you do to make money that gives you the right to say such things bob?

bobevenson wrote:My friend, and you are my friend, and don't say you're not my friend, because nobody tells me who my friends are!

That's because you have no friends bob.

Arising_uk wrote:But they didn't do these things to make a lot of money did they. They did them because they saw a technological opportunity that might or might not make a business but money wasn't their driver, it rarely is with inventors.

Excellent point.