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thedoc wrote:

attofishpi wrote:....none of you KNOW God.

I'll tell God you said that, God will be amused.

It knows everything i type..so get over it. I get the feeling Doc - that if you KNOW God - you have experienced its good side. The side portrayed by the establishment.

attofishpi wrote:....none of you KNOW God.

Is there a reason your statement uses the word "you" rather than "us"?

marjoram_blues wrote:

thedoc wrote:

sthitapragya wrote: What changed in real life after you found God?

Before you discovered God you chopped wood and washed your dishes. After you discovered God you chopped wood and washed your dishes.

Is discovering God the same as knowing God?

It's along those same lines, basically knowing and discovering seem to go together, though I understand that there are times when knowing and discovering can be separate issues. I was thinking of them as similar if not the same.

Lacewing wrote:

attofishpi wrote:....none of you KNOW God.

Is there a reason your statement uses the word "you" rather than "us"?

Of course. I know, i've yet to meet even a priest that knows.

Lacewing wrote:

attofishpi wrote:....none of you KNOW God.

Is there a reason your statement uses the word "you" rather than "us"?

The impression that I get is that Atto. thinks he knows God and the rest of us don't.

thedoc wrote:

Lacewing wrote:

attofishpi wrote:....none of you KNOW God.

Is there a reason your statement uses the word "you" rather than "us"?

The impression that I get is that Atto. thinks he knows God and the rest of us don't.

What are the attributes of God that you KNOW Doc?

attofishpi wrote: What are the attributes of God that you KNOW Doc?

I know that God exists, beyond that I don't claim to know anything, but I have faith that God is benevolent and empathetic.

thedoc wrote:

attofishpi wrote: What are the attributes of God that you KNOW Doc?

I know that God exists, beyond that I don't claim to know anything, but I have faith that God is benevolent and empathetic.

Empathy is attributable to a man, today as i have some other times in the past have told 'it' is NO man for what 'it' has put me through. So you know IT exists yet cannot define more than two attributes...two that i have seen little of.

thedoc wrote:The impression that I get is that Atto. thinks he knows God and the rest of us don't.

So let's see... how many does that make on this site now who believe that they, alone, have access to divine knowing? What is this, some sort of epidemic of insanity? Is there some kind of worm eating people's brains? How can so many claim the same thing uniquely... and not notice for themselves how idiotic and illogical it is? Seriously, mass insanity.

Lacewing wrote:

thedoc wrote:The impression that I get is that Atto. thinks he knows God and the rest of us don't.

So let's see... how many does that make on this site now who believe that they, alone, have access to divine knowing? What is this, some sort of epidemic of insanity? Is there some kind of worm eating people's brains? How can so many claim the same thing uniquely... and not notice for themselves how idiotic and illogical it is? Seriously, mass insanity.

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attofishpi wrote:....none of you KNOW God.

Well in my case he's more a friend of a friend.

thedoc wrote:

marjoram_blues wrote:

sthitapragya wrote: What changed in real life after you found God?

Is discovering God the same as knowing God?

It's along those same lines, basically knowing and discovering seem to go together, though I understand that there are times when knowing and discovering can be separate issues. I was thinking of them as similar if not the same.

The questions are indeed similar:
1. How did knowing God change you?
2. What changed in real life after you found God?

However, I think that 1. is personal and subjective more than objective; 2. is an objective look at specific changes in 'real life'.
My thoughts are that it is one's perspective of life that changes, and that might effect positive changes in life circumstances, or not

Chopping wood might now be looked on as a joy, rather than a duty, or v.v..

attofishpi wrote:It there was a worm eating your brain...lets face it...it would remain famished.

Your god must be very proud of you and all you think and do.

Lacewing wrote:

attofishpi wrote:It there was a worm eating your brain...lets face it...it would remain famished.

Your god must be very proud of you and all you think and do.

I'm pretty sure and hope it is more proud of you.

Perhaps a more interesting question for believers would be:
How would a loss of faith change you, or your life?