Re: Human imperfection.
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:01 pm
Takes some learnin to define perfect. Was it perfect before that learnin was discovered?
Who taught you that you're not perfect?
Who taught you that you're not perfect?
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Yes, nothingness is perfect.Walker wrote:Takes some learnin to define perfect. Was it perfect before that learnin was discovered?
Who taught you that you're not perfect?
Fascinating, no doubt.Dalek Prime wrote:I learned the hard way that I'm not perfect.
Buddhism is great for mollifying Asians. They really dig it. It helps them to stay calm in an otherwise overcrowded part of the world.thedoc wrote:Buddhism is not nihilism, that comes from an imperfect understanding of Buddhism.Arising_uk wrote:Goggle - http://www.iep.utm.edu/nihilism/yiostheoy wrote:Google is your friend. Although if you had read any Philosophy lately that would have covered it. That was the oh jeeze part. That's why the neophyte Empirical observation.
Tell me how Buddhism fits this bill?
I live on an island the size of the smallest state in the US with a population of 65 million and forecast to keep on rising. Maybe we need to take a look.yiostheoy wrote:Buddhism is great for mollifying Asians. They really dig it. It helps them to stay calm in an otherwise overcrowded part of the world. ...
Oh! You're upset by your fellow citizens following it, how Christian of you. Take no fear, they don't follow it, they are just disabused Christians.For Occidentals it is a complete cop out. There is no excuse for following Buddhism other than you were brainwashed into it by your parents -- who presumably were Asian.
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Wanker! Wanker!! Wanker!!! This is fun. Shame he can't see it.yiostheoy wrote:Arising_uk, who is currently on your ignore list, made this post.
When applied to the reality that human beings are, the concept of perfect means ... incomparable.Greta wrote:You illustrate my point. If rational ideas intersect with something Buddhists have claimed, I don't much mind. I'm just interested in the situation in reality - and I simply sketched an aspect of the human situation above. That's all. Is it Buddhism? Philosophy? Evolutionary biology? Sociology? Doesn't matter.yiostheoy wrote:That's Buddhism. It is a world major religion. Not a philosophy.Greta wrote:More broadly, over evolutionary time scales Homo sapiens are just hominids not long out of the caves. We have always striven to grow and improve but it's a long road to anything that could even be mistaken for perfection.
The reality I observe is that we humans are animals, with an influential "inheritance" of characteristics and impulses bequeathed by countless generations of our survivor forebears. Many of these, often automatic, processes within us are useful. Some, which were useful in the wild, are no longer helpful in modern society, most famously the fight-or-flight impulse. Sometimes we panic and go crazy. We say or do things that we wished we didn't say or do. We have brain glitches.
We humans screw up all the time - and my point is that we can't expect better. As it is, humanity's progress in just a few thousand years - intellectually, morally, technologically, philosophically - is astonishing, and yet we still berate ourselves for our flaws. Humanity as a whole has the attributes that we see in individual leaders and champions. That is, as a group we are driven perfectionists, constantly picking and prodding each other to perform better. This constant striving and competition makes humans beings both extraordinary and extraordinarily wearing.
Humans are extraordinary in nature, and extraordinary pains-in-the-arse. What do you do? Get up, bumble through another day. Hope for the best. This perfection malarkey is for idealists and theorists; it's not something found anywhere in nature.
He can and he shall. He can't resist a peek.Arising_uk wrote:Wanker! Wanker!! Wanker!!! This is fun. Shame he can't see it.yiostheoy wrote:Arising_uk, who is currently on your ignore list, made this post.
Not really.Walker wrote:When applied to the reality that human beings are, the concept of perfect means ... incomparable.Greta wrote:You illustrate my point. If rational ideas intersect with something Buddhists have claimed, I don't much mind. I'm just interested in the situation in reality - and I simply sketched an aspect of the human situation above. That's all. Is it Buddhism? Philosophy? Evolutionary biology? Sociology? Doesn't matter.yiostheoy wrote: That's Buddhism. It is a world major religion. Not a philosophy.
The reality I observe is that we humans are animals, with an influential "inheritance" of characteristics and impulses bequeathed by countless generations of our survivor forebears. Many of these, often automatic, processes within us are useful. Some, which were useful in the wild, are no longer helpful in modern society, most famously the fight-or-flight impulse. Sometimes we panic and go crazy. We say or do things that we wished we didn't say or do. We have brain glitches.
We humans screw up all the time - and my point is that we can't expect better. As it is, humanity's progress in just a few thousand years - intellectually, morally, technologically, philosophically - is astonishing, and yet we still berate ourselves for our flaws. Humanity as a whole has the attributes that we see in individual leaders and champions. That is, as a group we are driven perfectionists, constantly picking and prodding each other to perform better. This constant striving and competition makes humans beings both extraordinary and extraordinarily wearing.
Humans are extraordinary in nature, and extraordinary pains-in-the-arse. What do you do? Get up, bumble through another day. Hope for the best. This perfection malarkey is for idealists and theorists; it's not something found anywhere in nature.
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