Obvious Leo wrote: Because they are two different ways of expressing the same thing gravity and time can be quantised equivalently but this interpretation can never be accommodated within the spacetime narrative because this narrative is founded on a fundamentally flawed a priori assumption, namely the constant speed of light.
Examine these two statements in terms of their logical consistency and thus their truth value.
1. the speed of light is a constant
2. the speed of light is only observed to be a constant because it is proportional to clock-speed.
Both of these statements will produce identical epistemic phenomena for the observer to observe but only one of them makes sense.
You may philosophize as much as you want, but you perhaps overlook the fundamental distinction between philosophy ( even philosophy of science!) and science. You can use logic to invalidate a statement about the invariance of the speed of light, but not the invariance itself.
This is the task of science, not philosophy or logic.The invariance of the speed of light is a mathematically tested and empirically validated property of the universe . Its truth is beyond the purview of logical arguments. It lies in the predictive success of scientific hypotheses like the Theory of Relativity, which take it as a fundamental assumption.
I have some difficulties with the statement that the invariance of the speed of light is a “fundamentally flawed A PRIORI assumption”, if anything because this “flawed” “assumption “is empirically validated so far by science and all the technological applications based on it.
For one thing, it is at the core of Relativity. If you challenge it, then we have to question the whole theory of Relativity, which is based upon it.
We would also fall back on something similar to the angst faced by physics in the light of the Michelson-Morley experiment.
I am not saying that scientific hypotheses or laws cannot be revised and even discarded, but it is not an easy task to challenge Maxwell’s equations. Indeed, challenging the validity of such a fundamental law requires, to me, none less than another Einstein, which is rather improbable, at least..statistically. I am not aware of any attempt being made by scientists at the moment.
WE are all welcome to try, but to question the principle of the invariance of the speed of light and the Maxwell equations, requires a rigorous scientific, mathematically backed methodology, not just a sweeping philosophical statement.
Furthermore, this is the task of science, not that of philosophy, unless the philosopher is also a scientist and shifts his/her language and methodology to those of science.
Eschewing the law of the invariance of the speed of light falls within the broader, and to me questionable, tendency, in some quarters, to move away from realism, i.e. to relativize and subjectivize the “ reality” with which science deals, by reducing scientific discourse to no more than a circular process fed by the models we have chosen in advance as a given methodological perspective ( which could be different).
In the end, what science arrives at would no longer be a reality in its own right, neither an explanation of it , however partial or even wrong, but just a “ description”, whose TRUTH would be nothing more than the consistency with the a priori chosen models.
I may be wrong, but I am inclined to think that such a view is more akin to overzealous philosophical thinking than to true scientific thinking, because it has always been and it must be the fundamental assumption of science that 1) there is an external world 2) this world can be causally explained 3) the truth of the explanations is measured by the standard of empirical observation and the predictive capability of the hypotheses , rather than the mere conformity of the hypotheses with the a priori chosen models.
To deny reality to the world and to think that it cannot be known in itself, other than as a mere reflection of our a priori mental constructs, is an implicit return to the things in themselves and the epitome of a more serious circular thinking: things in themselves have been defined as not knowable, therefore outside the scope of philosophy and science, but then they are implicitly reintroduced as the standard by which we measure ( and in this case deny) the reality of the world we live in and the truth of the explanations provided by science.
Syllogistically, this can be expressed as follows:
1. Things in themselves do not exist, but even if they did, they would be unknowable
2. Whatever science claims to know, cannot be the things in themselves
3. Therefore science does not yield true knowledge.
What about if we ignored once for all the shadow of these darned unknowable noumena and we admitted as a working hypothesis that what we know of the external reality through science or sense perception IS or can be true knowledge, to the extent that it is validated by empirical observation, at least provisionally, until better hypotheses are found?
There is no need to submit the existence of reality to the “ probatio diabolica” of the things in themselves, which we know to be an impossible condition, precisely because we defined it as such. …
In the end, if we can walk on the moon or should we become able through stem- cells technology to re-regrow human limbs or organs,(which will become possible in not too distant a future ), is there any sense in asking such a question as : “ Yes, we do all this, but is the scientific knowledge behind it REAL knowledge of the external world?”
I don’t think many scientists will ask it, just as not too many of them are doubting the principle of the invariance of the speed of light, at least AS SCIENTISTS.
Personally I’d ban this type of questions from any meaningful philosophical discourse, in compliance with the all-too-forgotten principle known as the “ Ockam razor’ “, based on William of Ockam’s reminder that :
“Entia naturae non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem ” ( conceptual distinctions in nature should not be multiplied beyond what is necessary)
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