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Re: Is this drought a local problem?

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:09 pm
by Skip
Hobbe's Choice:

No its not happening "everywhere"

In each case it is a "LOCAL" problem, not a global one. The danger is that LA will try to pretend a global problem and wash its hands of its own responsibility. There is not a global drought, but a series of localised abuses of water use.

When a series of local abuses becomes a web of local abuses and the local webs all connect up to a network that reaches around the Earth, it's reasonable to call it a global crisis.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... -conflicts
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 093112.htm
http://water.org/water-crisis/water-facts/water/
http://www.fewresources.org/water-scarc ... water.html
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world ... al-drought
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy ... it-n196841

This one's a bit slow, but worth seeing.
http://www.eldoradocountyweather.com/cl ... -risk.html

If you only want to punish California, that's fine. Seeing or not seeing the bigger picture is a matter of choice, not of reading skill.

Re: Is this drought a local problem?

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 4:54 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
Skip wrote:
Hobbe's Choice:

No its not happening "everywhere"

In each case it is a "LOCAL" problem, not a global one. The danger is that LA will try to pretend a global problem and wash its hands of its own responsibility. There is not a global drought, but a series of localised abuses of water use.

When a series of local abuses becomes a web of local abuses and the local webs all connect up to a network that reaches around the Earth, it's reasonable to call it a global crisis.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... -conflicts
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 093112.htm
http://water.org/water-crisis/water-facts/water/
http://www.fewresources.org/water-scarc ... water.html
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world ... al-drought
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy ... it-n196841

This one's a bit slow, but worth seeing.
http://www.eldoradocountyweather.com/cl ... -risk.html

If you only want to punish California, that's fine. Seeing or not seeing the bigger picture is a matter of choice, not of reading skill.
Like I said you are missing the point.

Re: Is this drought a local problem?

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:05 pm
by Skip
Then at least the point is well and thoroughly missed.

Re: Is this drought a local problem?

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:40 am
by Philosophy Explorer
Hobbes' Choice wrote:No its not happening "everywhere"

In each case it is a "LOCAL" problem, not a global one. The danger is that LA will try to pretend a global problem and wash its hands of its own responsibility. There is not a global drought, but a series of localised abuses of water use.
HC, you make me laugh. It can't be a local problem since the residents in California have friends and relatives outside of the state. Plus Washington politics have an interest too in this drought.

PhilX

Re: Is this drought a local problem?

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:20 am
by Hobbes' Choice
Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Hobbes' Choice wrote:No its not happening "everywhere"

In each case it is a "LOCAL" problem, not a global one. The danger is that LA will try to pretend a global problem and wash its hands of its own responsibility. There is not a global drought, but a series of localised abuses of water use.
HC, you make me laugh. It can't be a local problem since the residents in California have friends and relatives outside of the state. Plus Washington politics have an interest too in this drought.

PhilX
The west coast and Seaboard of the USA, is not "EVERYWHERE". now run along and play with the younger children like a good boy.

Re: Is this drought a local problem?

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:41 am
by Philosophy Explorer
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Hobbes' Choice wrote:No its not happening "everywhere"

In each case it is a "LOCAL" problem, not a global one. The danger is that LA will try to pretend a global problem and wash its hands of its own responsibility. There is not a global drought, but a series of localised abuses of water use.
HC, you make me laugh. It can't be a local problem since the residents in California have friends and relatives outside of the state. Plus Washington politics have an interest too in this drought.

PhilX
The west coast and Seaboard of the USA, is not "EVERYWHERE". now run along and lay with the younger children like a good boy.
Nonresponsive. Now go play with the children.

PhilX

Re: Is this drought a local problem?

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:05 am
by Hobbes' Choice
Philosophy Explorer wrote:
Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Philosophy Explorer wrote:
HC, you make me laugh. It can't be a local problem since the residents in California have friends and relatives outside of the state. Plus Washington politics have an interest too in this drought.

PhilX
The west coast and Seaboard of the USA, is not "EVERYWHERE". now run along and lay with the younger children like a good boy.
Nonresponsive. Now go play with the children.

PhilX
If you want to compete with barbs, you need to be more orignal

Re: Is this drought a local problem?

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:17 am
by Hobbes' Choice
The water problems of LA are not even a drought, by normal standards of defintion. LA has not suffered from an unusual period of lack of rainfall. In fact LA has never depended on its own rainfall in any sense. LA imports all its water from far afield. This usage has increased and gone basically unabated for nearly 100 years now, and many local ecosystems have suffered as a result.

Calling it a 'drought' is pretending that there is a cause outside the solution of the Los Angeleans, when in fact LA is just profligate with its water. When I lived there back in 1980 I was always pretty horrified to see how many people used lawn sprinklers in the middle of day.

Americans I knew despite knowing full well where their water came from seemed utterly unrepentant and continued to compete with their neighbours on how often they "had to" mow their lawns.

Drought is not 'everywhere'. It is localised to poor water management (if you can have the effrontery to call it a drought in the first place).