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Re: Computer Artwork
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:34 am
by attofishpi
Hobbes' Choice wrote:I once watched a documentary about Andy Warhol. In it he was painting a woman's breasts; then impressing the image of the breast with a piece of paper. He then tool the paper, screwed it up and flushed it down the toilet. As he flushed he took a picture.
Where is the art? Actually it was the Photo of the paper going down the shitter.
In my view that was the point that art had reached an all time low, and not much has improved since; though there is still much out there of value and interest.
Holy crap
i'm actually having to agree with you...there is a pile of twod out there implied as art, and yes there is still much worthy of appreciation. That is not to say that art i don't appreciate is by any means not art.
Re: Computer Artwork
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:56 pm
by Pluto
Art changes with the times. In our time, what should art be doing?
Re: Computer Artwork
Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:04 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
Pluto wrote:Art changes with the times. In our time, what should art be doing?
The way you phrase the question is indicative of where "art" is going wrong.
First read your own question, then acknowledge that "art" does nothing. People do art.
The idea that art is a force with it's own volition, that 'it" leads trends and is a 'market' is the essence of the error in artistic endeavour.
I contend that what Southerby's say is art; what sells; what is trendy - none of this is art. That is business.
Art is a thing pursued for expression and fulfilment not money.
Re: Computer Artwork
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:37 am
by Pluto
Hobbes' Choice wrote:Pluto wrote:Art changes with the times. In our time, what should art be doing?
The way you phrase the question is indicative of where "art" is going wrong.
First read your own question, then acknowledge that "art" does nothing. People do art.
The idea that art is a force with it's own volition, that 'it" leads trends and is a 'market' is the essence of the error in artistic endeavour.
I contend that what Southerby's say is art; what sells; what is trendy - none of this is art. That is business.
Art is a thing pursued for expression and fulfilment not money.
The question I posed was phrased quite correctly, thank you very much. You sound such an old bag of wind. "I contend that Sotherby's..."
Here watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=270&v=OLKpr7MvyBU
Re: Computer Artwork
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 3:46 pm
by Hobbes' Choice
Pluto wrote:Hobbes' Choice wrote:Pluto wrote:Art changes with the times. In our time, what should art be doing?
The way you phrase the question is indicative of where "art" is going wrong.
First read your own question, then acknowledge that "art" does nothing. People do art.
The idea that art is a force with it's own volition, that 'it" leads trends and is a 'market' is the essence of the error in artistic endeavour.
I contend that what Southerby's say is art; what sells; what is trendy - none of this is art. That is business.
Art is a thing pursued for expression and fulfilment not money.
The question I posed was phrased quite correctly, thank you very much. You sound such an old bag of wind. "I contend that Sotherby's..."
Here watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=270&v=OLKpr7MvyBU
I did not say it was phrased "incorrectly". If you were smarter you might have to sense to know what the f*** I am talking about.
It is common enough from morons to fail to grasp a more clever person's opinions and conclude them to be windbags.
You link is exactly the type of bullshit I am talking about. Laying a bunch of bricks on the ground is not good art.
Re: Computer Artwork
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 5:16 pm
by Pluto
This person, the highest selling female artist to date, appears to f***-with the art world and art market. Or that's how the art people see it. I found it difficult to find a picture of her. She makes work, so I have briefly read, about the darker side of the American dream. What caught my eye was a great sculpture called oozewald.
http://hyperallergic.com/97416/marc-jan ... s-artwork/
Re: Computer Artwork
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:08 am
by Pluto
...is not good art.
why not?
Re: Computer Artwork
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:10 am
by Hobbes' Choice
Pluto wrote: ...is not good art.
why not?
For the reasons I posted above.
Dry stacking two course of concrete bricks, is no better than uncoiling a shit, except that there is possibly a little more effort and artistry in getting an interesting shape to the shit.