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bobevenson wrote:Being detained forever without being charged with an offense is a crime against humanity, and the U.S. government should be condemned to eternal Hell for practicing it anywhere in the world.[/size][/b]

Good grief!!!I agree with a troll!!!!

raw_thought wrote:

bobevenson wrote:Being detained forever without being charged with an offense is a crime against humanity, and the U.S. government should be condemned to eternal Hell for practicing it anywhere in the world.[/size][/b]

Good grief!!!I agree with a troll!!!!

You are obviously the exception to the rule that anybody who doesn't agree with me is an idiot.

You asked for confirmation from the New York Times that we can be arrested , held indefinitely ( even decades) without ever being charged with a crime or going to trial.
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“Lawmakers charged with merging the House and Senate versions of the National Defense Authorization Act decided on Tuesday to drop a provision that would have explicitly barred the military from holding American citizens and permanent residents in indefinite detention without trial as terrorism suspects..”
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/19/us/po ... .html?_r=0

“Indefinite detention is prohibited under international law.’
FROM
http://www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/issu ... -detention
OTHER SOURCES
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 ... -citizens/



http://rt.com/usa/160832-ndaa-gitmo-detention-approved/
http://www.salon.com/2013/12/27/obama_s ... n_remains/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/1 ... 37923.html
https://www.aclu.org/news/president-oba ... n-bill-law

OK, indefinite detention is not the law of the land. The New York Times was lying. I wish this site had the face palm!

raw_thought wrote:OK, indefinite detention is not the law of the land. The New York Times was lying. I wish this site had the face palm!

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about, pal, and I don't care what you've read or where you read it, you're full of shit and don't realize it!

So the New York Times was lying (and every media outlet,even the conservative ones) Whatever.

http://www.businessinsider.com/ndaa-ame ... ion2012-11
(The business insider, hardly a liberal magazine!)
http://www.voicesofliberty.com/article/ ... detention/
A Ron Paul site
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... story.html
The Washington post was liberal but has since gone conservative.
http://www.infowars.com/michigan-nullif ... detention/
Alex jones
The above are all CONSERVATIVE sites. Yes, many liberal sites also protest this elimination of the bill of rights. However, I know that you are a right wing conservative and will not believe anything in the New York Times etc.
Perhaps liberals and conservatives can unite on at least this topic (the destruction of all our rights).

raw_thought wrote:OK, indefinite detention is not the law of the land. The New York Times was lying. I wish this site had the face palm!

'As someone who had a trial just the other day, I have to say that your position doesn't seem tenable. Perhaps you should have asked whether the right to trial is absolute and, if not, what are its limits?

I said, "a RIGHT to a trial". I did not say that no trials occur. You (and I) probably will get a trial because we are both insignificant. However, we can be imprisoned for decades without a trial.
PS: Ironically, I am about to enter jury duty! These weird coincidences keep happening to me!