The Argument That Philosophy, True Philosophy, Does Not -

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No.

No, it's a no for me...


Neuro-linguistic programming is just not my vibe.


I think all of us here realize that Philosophy Now Forums is the biggest stage of philosophy in the world...and that getting up here, to this point, is a monumental task in itself.

So we should all feel proud as members and as active participants here.


And sharing such a deep and passionate part of ourselves, as you just did, is difficult. So I appreciate you standing-up and sharing this part of you.



...and you know I got your back. You know that. I got you...

Keep actively practicing your preferred dicipline of philosophy. I see bright things in your future.






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[Arising_uk]

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No.

No, it's a no for me...


Neuro-linguistic programming is just not my vibe.

Not surprised, as knowing what one wants is not your bag.

I think all of us here realize that Philosophy Now Forums is the biggest stage of philosophy in the world...and that getting up here, to this point, is a monumental task in itself.

Its an interweeb forum you delusional loon. All it takes is a computer and an ISP.

So we should all feel proud as members and as active participants here.

Given your knowledge of philosophy you should be ashamed to post here.

And sharing such a deep and passionate part of ourselves, as you just did, is difficult. So I appreciate you standing-up and sharing this part of you.

Its a piece of piss, you'd know that if you knew yourself.

...and you know I got your back. You know that. I got you...

Keep actively practicing your preferred dicipline of philosophy. I see bright things in your future.[/size]

You've got nothing to offer me, so save your delusions for yourself. You obviously need them.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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Not sure what your frustration is doing to your common sense at this moment, or if I caught you at a bad time, ...but may I suggest that you take a break from this thread...before you say anything else that you may later regreat.



All the best to you - And KEEP ON PRACTICING!!!





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[Arising_uk]

Not sure what your frustration is doing to your common sense at this moment, or if I caught you at a bad time, ...but may I suggest that you take a break from this thread...before you say anything else that you may later regreat. ...

Unlike you my words don't come as a surprise to me, so thanks but I'll pass on your psycho-babble(nasty little mind-games you play by the way, its how I know you a gnu, that and the platitudinous front).

All the best to you - And KEEP ON PRACTICING!!!

Prefer learning and doing thanks.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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Not sure if gnu is part and parcel of Neuro-linguistic programming but you are loosing me on that particular term.


BTW, I'm NOT attacking you.


Neuro-linguistic programming is for you at this point in your life.


I respect you for opening-up and sharing.


There are some solid, philosophical concepts contained in Neuro-linguistic programming.


Period. That's all. That's all I'm saying.





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[Arising_uk]

. Not sure if gnu is part and parcel of Neuro-linguistic programming but you are loosing me on that particular term.

What tied you up?

BTW, I'm NOT attacking you.

Whatever helps you sleep.

Neuro-linguistic programming is for you at this point in your life.

Nope, its part of my life when I choose.

I respect you for opening-up and sharing.

It's called answering a question, try it some time.

There are some solid, philosophical concepts contained in Neuro-linguistic programming.

More specifically there is an interesting epistemology and pedagogy but I'm at a lack to understand how you'd know this.

Period. That's all. That's all I'm saying.[/size]

If only.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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"epistemology and pedagogy but I'm at a lack to understand how you'd know this."



Actually...I did not know those two words; epistemology and pedagogy.


Well done.



But, you must understand what I mean; philosophy...real philosophy, by it's nature, refuses to be utilitarian.


I am a philosopher.

You are a sales seminar, success wannabe.


Nothing wrong in that.


You want to be something.


I want to see something.



There must be some compatability there...







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[Arising_uk]

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Actually...I did not know those two words; epistemology and pedagogy.

And yet you've posted in a sub-forum called exactly one of these.

Well done.

For what?

But, you must understand what I mean; philosophy...real philosophy, by it's nature, refuses to be utilitarian.

What must I understand? That you think philosophy cannot be practical, functional, useful, serviceable, effective, efficient, pragmatic, realistic, handy, neat, down to earth, (suited)to the purpose, etc. This is why you are getting no-where but passed-out on the floor, as what you are doing is not philosophy but some mish-mash of eastern religion, new age mysticism , cod-psychology and drug addiction.

I am a philosopher.

I've told you, this is an accolade not a self-assignation.

You are a sales seminar, success wannabe.

Nah! Useless at sales and success. This is your wiki education shining through as NLP has little to do with such things other than that they involve communication, NLP is not self-help as it takes two to make it work, in a way its like L.Ron's Dianetics as it used psychology and psychoanalysis at its base but without the metaphysics or the religion, like I say, an epistemology and a pedagogy.

Nothing wrong in that.

kma.

You want to be something.

Wrong, already am something. I just like improving at somethings.

I want to see something.

What?

There must be some compatability there...[/size]

There is, you need to identify what it is you wish to see as you'll never be seeing it otherwise. This involves you understanding what it is you actually want rather than chasing around like a headless gnu searching of something you know not what.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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The Argument That Philosophy, True Philosophy, Does Not In it's Core Involve Any Words, Just a Continued Feeling of, I am Here; The Practice of Self-Consciousness





I am looking to obtain longer & deeper moments of self-consciousness.


It's not utilitarian. It's philosophy. Real philosophy.







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Philosophy, real philosophy should be plumbed by the use of self-consciousness.

Sustained periods of self-consciousness and possibly an even a higher consciousness is the only thing that separates us from any other living thing.


Now, if you just want to talk, spend a lifetime of just talking to no end, enjoy a multitude of authors that do not incorporate consciousness into their theories and arguments.

If you understand the value of becoming more self-conscious and wish to increase or deepen those feelings, perhaps real philosophy is for you.

It's your path.


I'm just stating that the study of consciousness, with the goal of increasing self-consciousness, is the sole factor in determining the difference and the relevance of the discipline of philosophy.





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[Arising_uk]

.... I am Here ...

Where the hell did you think you were?

I am looking to obtain longer & deeper moments of self-consciousness.

Try meditating rather than exhaustion and drugs then. Of course it'd mean you'd have to train your body first and that'd involve self-discipline which I suspect you are rather short of.

It's not utilitarian. It's philosophy. Real philosophy.[/size]

So you keep saying and as I keep repeating philosophy is not to be impractical, dysfunctional, non-useful, unserviceable, ineffective, inefficient, non-pragmatic, unrealistic (unsuited)to the purpose, etc. But then philosophy is not your aim.

Philosophy, real philosophy should be plumbed by the use of self-consciousness. ...

And yet you praise your periods when you are unconscious?

Sustained periods of self-consciousness and possibly an even a higher consciousness is the only thing that separates us from any other living thing.

Gnu! What separates us from most of the other living things is intellect, imagination and abstraction.

Now, if you just want to talk, spend a lifetime of just talking to no end, enjoy a multitude of authors that do not incorporate consciousness into their theories and arguments.

Since you've read none of them I'll take this as the bollocks it is. You really need to stop tarring others with your inadequacies as unlike you what I read I try to incorporate into my life, if it makes sense that is.

If you understand the value of becoming more self-conscious and wish to increase or deepen those feelings, perhaps real philosophy is for you.

What? You mean passed-out unconscious on a locker room floor? Gnu! I name thee.

It's your path.

Thankfully not.

I'm just stating that the study of consciousness, with the goal of increasing self-consciousness, is the sole factor in determining the difference and the relevance of the discipline of philosophy.[/size]

Given that you have no understanding of the discipline of Philosophy I'll take this as the pretentious gnu waffle that it is.