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This is no time to be splitting hairs.



England is with us...albeit you are hanging onto our coattails, you're still with us.






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Bill Wiltrack wrote:.This is no time to be splitting hairs.
You think moral hypocrisy, over a million dead and chaos in Iraq and Afganistan hair-splitting?

We've heard all this 'you're either with us or against us' from Bush thanks.
England is with us...albeit you are hanging onto our coattails, you're still with us.
It's exactly because we're tired of our politicians making us the US's lapdog that we're not going anywhere with you until you have an actually plan of imperial occupation to back up your easy use of imperial might.

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You are insulting the Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish with your post as its not England but Britain who would be involved.
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s.p.


I am insulting the Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish with my post as its not England but Britain who would be involved.






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Bill Wiltrack wrote:s.p.

I am insulting the Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish with my post as its not England but Britain who would be involved.
Glad you got it.
p.s.
Any opinion on the slightly more substantive issues?
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The agreement between Syria/Russia/International UN Inspectors will fall apart as soon as it is put together.



Then WE will go in.


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"we" won't do a damn thing

while Obama fiddles around, watch Bibi

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Bill Wiltrack wrote:...

What's your take?[/size]
That America will do as its always done and act in the vested interests view of their national interest.
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I understand what you are saying and to a large extent, in our entire history, what you stated is more or less true.


President Barack Obama has his eyes set to a higher level.


We are now addressing injustices throughout the world
, with the help of various national associations and the United Nations.



As an American
, to the rest of our shared world-wide humanity, you are welcomed.







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Bill Wiltrack wrote:...

President Barack Obama has his eyes set to a higher level.


We are now addressing injustices throughout the world
, with the help of various national associations and the United Nations.


As an American
, to the rest of our shared world-wide humanity, you are welcomed.[/size]
I think you live in the delusion of the american myths as you are not 'addressing injustices throughout the world', just where your vested interests think their national interest lies.
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I think America, being the world power, is taking a new step in this modern world. We are gradually forming a universal moral code of what is to be considered right and wrong.



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Bill Wiltrack wrote:.
I think America, being the world power, is taking a new step in this modern world. We are gradually forming a universal moral code of what is to be considered right and wrong.

...you're welcomed.
You live in a dream world as the UN has long had a universal declaration of human rights, i.e. what's right and wrong. It's that the world powers pick and choose which ones to apply to who and, in general, they do it to suit their own national interests. So for example, it's wrong to destroy a country for the act of a single group who were not even from that country or it's wrong to kidnap others and hand them over for others to torture in ones national interest or it's wrong to to tell others that they cannot have certain weapons when one holds them oneself or it's wrong to tell others to allow the UN to inspect anothers chemical weapons when one does not allow such and inspection upon oneself or it's wrong to tell others to obey UN resolutions whilst supporting others who don't, etc, etc.
p.s.
You do know America killed Cap?
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I don't know what you mean by Cap.


Everything else you articulated I agree with. I enjoy and support the United Nations. America continues to be a huge influence in the UN.








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Bill Wiltrack wrote:.I don't know what you mean by Cap.
:roll: Call yourself an American? Captain America.
Everything else you articulated I agree with. I enjoy and support the United Nations. America continues to be a huge influence in the UN.
Then as usual you are confused and full of contradiction :roll: The UN is a toothless tiger and it's just because of the 'influence' i.e. the veto of the world powers that make it so.
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The United Nations influence and goodwill will continue to expand.



Fun Fact:
England is a proud and loyal member of the UN.











Pittsburgh - 27
Minnesota - 34


...You're welcomed.





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Bill Wiltrack wrote:.

The United Nations influence and goodwill will continue to expand.
LMAO! Ever read what it's auxiliary troops are getting up to in the countries they are sent to.
Fun Fact: England is a proud and loyal member of the UN.[/size]
You are delusional as you appear to believe that the UN is an independent organization that nations have to be loyal to.
Pittsburgh - 27
Minnesota - 34
...You're welcomed.[/url]
Now this is a sore point as American football should never be allowed to churn up the hallowed turf but like most things in the UK it's in the hands of the bean-counters. Please don't think me jingoistic as Rugby shouldn't be allowed there either.
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