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Hjarloprillar wrote:

John K wrote:

socratus wrote: The geometrical ‘chaos triangle’ consists on big and small triangles.
Let us take the Pythagoras' theory.
In math Pythagoras' theory applies equally to the largest
and smallest triangles. So physicists decided that this
applies also to the electromagnetic phenomena; that the laws
of a nature in macrocosm and in a microcosm are identical.
It appears that this is not so. There is difference between
the macrocosm ( big triangle ) and the microcosm ( small triangle).
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The dichotomy between Newtonian and quantum physics?

As a no high math guy i ask the same
"The dichotomy between Newtonian and quantum physics"
for having no high math does not mean a 150+ iq is dead.

the brain works well . v-16 at 3000 rpm

it runs on hydrogen the 16 cylinders are ceramics capped with titanium alloy

Where is a dichotomy: in Nature or in the human’s logic ?
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John K wrote:

socratus wrote: The geometrical ‘chaos triangle’ consists on big and small triangles.
Let us take the Pythagoras' theory.
In math Pythagoras' theory applies equally to the largest
and smallest triangles. So physicists decided that this
applies also to the electromagnetic phenomena; that the laws
of a nature in macrocosm and in a microcosm are identical.
It appears that this is not so. There is difference between
the macrocosm ( big triangle ) and the microcosm ( small triangle).
===.

The dichotomy between Newtonian and quantum physics?

A dichotomy is an interesting idea. Some people promote this idea in theories of consciousness. That is to say, in terms of a dichotomy; mind and body as two different substances. Overall, I take this to mean we can use the same type of concepts and apply it to quantum mechanics and classical physics. If we consider the mind body problem again then we see that the way out of dualism is to say that the mental and the physical are really the same substance. There is no dichotomy. We just think there is.


In the end quantum mechanics wants to explain waves and particles as the same thing and they can use the maths to show that they are. Quantum mechanics can combine with classical physics and yield results, and in this respect it has helped to solve some of the problems classical explanations are unable to answer.

I guess there is an argument in a philosophical sense to say that when it comes to the two theories there is no dichotomy. We only think there is.

socratus wrote: Where is a dichotomy: in Nature or in the human’s logic ?

Clearly in humanities' understanding of nature. Isn't this why scientists pursue unification theory?

Ginkgo wrote: I guess there is an argument in a philosophical sense to say
that when it comes to the two theories there is no dichotomy.
We only think there is.

Correct.
The dichotomy is not in the Physics.
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outside our universe..exists

it MUST

1st define universe
then define reality.thay are not same thing. which encompaseses other

the Socratus/Prill dictum.

I need the details.
I want to know the " surprising ways" of " the transitions between order and disorder "
And if the God exist I want to know the details of His existence.
Because the True God is in the Details (and not in common words)
And these Details can be only Quantum’s Details.

There are many smart people here..
i am somewhat alone as i do not need smart.

I need fellows of my creed.
If not so smart person says what i say in fumbled words. does it make him/her less than me?

quantum details of determinism.. the root

Hjarloprillar

Hjarloprillar wrote:As a true advocate of William of Ockham. [father of epistemology to many]

This will be short.
Prills dictum
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It is only the ability to embrace a different reality that allows science to expand beyond the limits of what we know.
However extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

Method and madness have throughout human history walked hand in hand. We are so often stunted blind and thoughtless.
Idiot apes without a racial goal. Never have we made a civilisation.
We vent trillions into thermonuclear weapons and a pittance into our best future.. the high frontier.

A fundamental truth paraphrased from the most unlikely of places.
"The only true freedom we have is the opportunity to work things out for ourselves"
A greater gift that existence itself.

This is for our species. science.
And the unswerving drive to change.
These together will make us or break us.

If we break so be it.
If we do not.
we shall become as gods.

Hjarloprillar

This looks like rainbow chasing.

"The only true freedom we have is the opportunity to work things out for ourselves"

If this is rainbows..i chase whole heartedly and rationally.
Thus science came to be.
Where we think 1st and feel second.

But driven by feeling. it is a self fulfilling prophesy.
Science is feeling in a 'roundabout way