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SpheresOfBalance wrote:

Greylorn Ell wrote:

cabalabro wrote:Consider this as Philosophical teaser, deny that it is not true using all the tools you have got at your disposal, try to kick fundamentals out of its foundation try to do everything to brake it. I have more on the site i created and will give link if allowed by community. But for now just try to brake this logic.

Theory Of Everything

Information, qubits, is all there is.
Information ,qubits, can form systems of information of multiple qubits that act like a single qubit for other higher systems of information
Information(qubits) shapes the systems of information and systems of information shapes the information
Information is governed by the power law
Space-time-energy-mass-gravity-complexity-entropy-all the forces everything, everything is information and systems of information
Universe has tendency to form higher/bigger systems of information (Entropy, systems reaches thermal equilibrium to for bigger systems of information with the same features ) And that’s all you need for gravity, that’s how information “clumps up” and forms the systems of information from massive amounts of information (like stars and planets moons asteroids comets nebulas everything the more you go to the centre of these objects the more information you’ll find) there is a point where that code that system of information becomes a qubit of higher information system, we have a black hole. Why? Because more and more information is born in the universe. How? You travel in space and time!
Systems of information can be connected where “smaller” one has a fundamental influence on the “bigger” one and other way around thus forming multi-level system of information.
The more possibility’s there are for “smaller” system of information to form/become a part of the “bigger” one the less likely it is to stay on its own or in the smaller system of information.
To become part of the bigger/higher systems of information, systems of information can first “decay” into smaller ones depending on the higher system of information they are in.
Complexity of information forms information systems of its own, it forms life. Life is abundant in the universe and life forms even higher systems of information called knowledge, we are those higher systems of information we are the knowledge.

Hey there, genius-- did you confuse brake with break?

And how about beginning your theory by explaining the origin of information? Best keep a day job until your Nobel Prize is awarded.

It's obvious, at least to me, that English is in fact his second language. Plus, only morons worry about such trivialities, as spelling, grammar, incorrect homonym usage, etc, often the only thing they're capable of grasping, as their need to find some way of winning, trumps their minds eye, as to the real topic at hand. They would serve themselves, everyone for that matter, much more so, if they were capable of looking past such trivialities, as this worldly arena of ever varying differences amongst people requires, so as to actually be productive, rather than being spiteful, (a means to release ones own personal pressures), at the expense of another.

Selfishness, seemingly that which man wields so effortlessly, often begetting the same in return; futility?

Get off your pretentious bullshit, SOB. Had there been any merit to this goofball's post I'd not have mentioned his literary incompetence.

Greylorn Ell wrote: Get off your pretentious bullshit, SOB. Had there been any merit to this goofball's post I'd not have mentioned his literary incompetence.

You first, and your literary aptitude is nothing special either.

Dude you need to seriously take it down a notch, this whole superiority complex thing is getting dull too. People don't like your ideas, you rub people the wrong way although that is by the by, you make claims of self agrandizement, despite not having the accreditation in any field to do so. I wonder why you think this angle of: I am so much better than others, is really going to pan out. Perhaps you think people can see it, all I see is someone who had an idea who doesn't really want to discuss it unless they fit in with an increasingly narrow field of paramaters you attenuate over time.

Your theories are half baked, your science knowledge lacking, you have a sort of conformation bias the average creationist would be proud of, you ignore anyone who does not agree with you. You make up vacuous and pointless reasons to do so, particularly when you can't answer their points, when you are not making snide remarks at others for having the nerve to challenge you, you just ignoring everyone on the thread you can't answer. Is this really working for you? Because I can tell you a lot of people see you as someone on a pedestal, preaching something that you haven't backed up to people who you seem completely incapable of convincing, the few you actually talk to the 5% of everyone who challenges you, and that's not their problem it's your blinkered attitude.

You want a discussion talk to 10% of the forum at least. You don't have to talk to me, you don't have to answer everyone, but one or two people other than the usual would be a start. Just a heads up, you can carry on running head down at a brick wall if you like, but no one is going to listen, and you are going to become more and more frustrated over time, until you leave this medium, I don't mind you being here, hell you are at least mildly entertaining. When you do go though remember it's not because they were dim, twits or couldn't recognise your genius. If you can't convince people the fault always, and I mean always lies with you not anyone else, it's not that everyone is a moron, you need to accept that, it's because of your ideas and your lack of ability to make them convincing.

Seriously been there before trying to express and idea and no one is listening, and it's very tempting to think it's because you know more than they do, or that somehow they are not getting it. If you are wise though you probably need to go back and examine your fundamentals, because a few people not getting it, sure it happens- everyone not getting it repeatedly on many threads particularly in a well educated forum, is not because everyone is a twit, missing the point. Trust me, it just is not, that is self delusion.

Incidentally anyone who uses the excuse of poor grammar, poor literary aptitude, and yet you know understood everything they said, is looking for an out, otherwise they would ask them to clarify because they were hard to understand. As soon as you see that in a discussion more pertinently, as an excuse 999/1000, you know they have run out of ideas. It's a forum cliché and a rookie mistake, and you hate to see it trotted out like it is a reasonable argument, to not reply to the salient points.

Now I don't agree with his argument on one or two fundamental points, although it is very similar to other ideas about information in the universe from other people far more qualified than you incidentally (which yes does matter), which are admittedly just ideas not even hypotheses. But it's a philosophy forum, as I said everyone is entitled to an opinion. I would probably take issue with those points, if I wasn't dealing with mouth almighty himself. I like to think I would at least show the person the courtesy of attacking his argument not him or his Linguistic aptitude, because for all I know his first language is Chinese, and he made a serious effort to try to be understood in English, and it is very clear what he means.

But I'll tell you what annoys me the most, is you probably scared yet another user off this forum with your insulting vitriol, and that is not right, you should give people who are new posters a little leeway, at least enough so that you actually answer their points, not fob them off. That's just disrespectful.

Blaggard wrote:

Greylorn Ell wrote: Get off your pretentious bullshit, SOB. Had there been any merit to this goofball's post I'd not have mentioned his literary incompetence.

You first, and your literary aptitude is nothing special either.

Dude you need to seriously take it down a notch, this whole superiority complex thing is getting dull too. People don't like your ideas, you rub people the wrong way although that is by the by, you make claims of self agrandizement, despite not having the accreditation in any field to do so. I wonder why you think this angle of: I am so much better than others, is really going to pan out. Perhaps you think people can see it, all I see is someone who had an idea who doesn't really want to discuss it unless they fit in with an increasingly narrow field of paramaters you attenuate over time.

Your theories are half baked, your science knowledge lacking, you have a sort of conformation bias the average creationist would be proud of, you ignore anyone who does not agree with you. You make up vacuous and pointless reasons to do so, particularly when you can't answer their points, when you are not making snide remarks at others for having the nerve to challenge you, you just ignoring everyone on the thread you can't answer. Is this really working for you? Because I can tell you a lot of people see you as someone on a pedestal, preaching something that you haven't backed up to people who you seem completely incapable of convincing, the few you actually talk to the 5% of everyone who challenges you, and that's not their problem it's your blinkered attitude.

You want a discussion talk to 10% of the forum at least. You don't have to talk to me, you don't have to answer everyone, but one or two people other than the usual would be a start. Just a heads up, you can carry on running head down at a brick wall if you like, but no one is going to listen, and you are going to become more and more frustrated over time, until you leave this medium, I don't mind you being here, hell you are at least mildly entertaining. When you do go though remember it's not because they were dim, twits or couldn't recognise your genius. If you can't convince people the fault always, and I mean always lies with you not anyone else, it's not that everyone is a moron, you need to accept that, it's because of your ideas and your lack of ability to make them convincing.

Seriously been there before trying to express and idea and no one is listening, and it's very tempting to think it's because you know more than they do, or that somehow they are not getting it. If you are wise though you probably need to go back and examine your fundamentals, because a few people not getting it, sure it happens- everyone not getting it repeatedly on many threads particularly in a well educated forum, is not because everyone is a twit, missing the point. Trust me, it just is not, that is self delusion.

Incidentally anyone who uses the excuse of poor grammar, poor literary aptitude, and yet you know understood everything they said, is looking for an out, otherwise they would ask them to clarify because they were hard to understand. As soon as you see that in a discussion more pertinently, as an excuse 999/1000, you know they have run out of ideas. It's a forum cliché and a rookie mistake, and you hate to see it trotted out like it is a reasonable argument, to not reply to the salient points.

Now I don't agree with his argument on one or two fundamental points, although it is very similar to other ideas about information in the universe from other people far more qualified than you incidentally (which yes does matter), which are admittedly just ideas not even hypotheses. But it's a philosophy forum, as I said everyone is entitled to an opinion. I would probably take issue with those points, if I wasn't dealing with mouth almighty himself. I like to think I would at least show the person the courtesy of attacking his argument not him or his Linguistic aptitude, because for all I know his first language is Chinese, and he made a serious effort to try to be understood in English, and it is very clear what he means.

But I'll tell you what annoys me the most, is you probably scared yet another user off this forum with your insulting vitriol, and that is not right, you should give people who are new posters a little leeway, at least enough so that you actually answer their points, not fob them off. That's just disrespectful.

Blaggard,
I got it that you do not like me much. That's okay. I have no interest in being liked by pinheads, and actively discourage their attention. Perhaps you've noticed.

I read this blurb tonight because I had some vodka. And the truth is, I only read the opening sentences to a few paragraphs. You are like an "Angry Orchard" commercial, and do not sustain my interest for more than a few milliseconds. (Do I want to listen to ornery assholes selling apple juice. Nope. Mute switch)

My feelings towards you are different than yours towards me. I see you as a shadow of my angry and stupid self some decades ago, an egocentric little prcik who I did not like much back then, and like less even now.

I see you from that perspective as moderately intelligent but dumb-fuck ignorant. as I was. The difference between us is that your ignorance embraces conventional opinions. You insist that the bullshit in which you currently wallow represents a useful picture of reality. Thus, conversing with you is like arguing with the total onslaught of conventional belief systems and a hundred-thousand authority figures. I do not have the energy needed to do that. I want to go dancing now and then, and maybe get laid.

I am on this forum for one purpose only: That is to connect with intelligent individuals who recognize that our ideas about the beginnings of things, and the nature of human beings, are fundamentally wrong.

In one sense, trying to argue with you is like arguing with my self from back in 1960, when I first started to think. I was an annoying asshole (hey, what's changed?). I see you as someone who is determined to support his programmed belief systems. I understand that state of mind. It is the same state of mind that I had when I entered a university a half-century ago, convinced that Catholicism was the answer to all metaphysical questions.

It was not. The atheistic alternatives did no better. Agreement rules whatever passes in humans for "minds." Wish you had one.

I view perhaps one of ten of your posts, and find them disappointingly stupid and inconsequential rants against a theory that you've not taken the trouble to read. That's okay. I don't want you to read about Beon Theory, because you are not qualified to understand it, and will come back with your own incompetent and simple-minded fucked-up interpretation of it.

Nonetheless, I note that you are consistently bitching, like a tiresome old woman, about ideas of which you have no understanding, and are incapable of understanding. Perhaps you should consider eschewing your career in physics and philosophy to become a contributing member of the Democratic party? Or the Republican party. Dipshits and pinheads, whatever their badges.

No one cares mate. No one. Engage people or don't, don't and you are killing any chance you will ever have to convince anyone. Your choice. Either way by now I doubt anyone cares anyway. You have dug such a deep pit for yourself.

"When in a hole, stop digging."

You don't have to argue with me, ok you can't and have demonstrated that. You missed the point it's the 90% of other people on this forum you don't bother with that I find egregious. And that shit where you storm in as the worlds biggest authority, you must see why that is not conducive to discussion or any progression either. You must know all you are doing is building a higher and higher ivory tower? Surely you must know that once it reaches heaven that is you: God elmighty? This works for you does it?

I ask again discussion it works when you discuss, it doesn't work when you ignore everyone except 5% of the forum does it, be honest... that works does it?

I don't matter I am wrong about everything, ok, what about all the other people you have just ignored and skipped over? Is everyone just wrong but the tiny minority. This is a religion mate. And it's your look out to run head down at religion and not indulge in any philosophical discussion. You will find though as the years roll by, you're just not going to get anywhere, and the frustration will build, and then you will give up. Having achieved nothing. Is that really what you want?

If you can't discuss things with all the people here, not including me, who is wrong, as if that even fucking matters. Why not just spare yourself this headlong charge head down at a wall and go somewhere else that appreciates soap boxing, advertising and non scientific waffle, you would save a lot of time. Time you have though, as I can readily see, wasting it you seem to enjoy as I can readily see...

I hope you never leave and for one clear example, you demonstrate with every word you write, just how easy it is to remain unconvincing by your means. You're an object lesson in being unconvincing. Your hypocrisy well that's just the cherry on the cake. I complained about your argument style did I, cry me a river. And you never insult anyone do you, and you are perfect in that respect are you. It's great watching you crash and burn with circularity. Don't go changing.

Now I have offered you some constructive criticism, albeit with some insulting badinage, but it probably bothers you no more than your insults bother me, but hey quid pro quo, I am sure we both can handle the pain of the parry and riposte. What I think you can do is carry on as you are doing now and get nowhere, and then I think what may be better, is to address all the people who pose questions (not me to iterate, I am wrong about everything uninformed and a pleb, and know nothing about anything, at all and probably would sell my own grandmother, hell I probably am so evil I would kill Jesus for 20 pieces of silver, hell I'd do it for nothing, etc), and then, people may well take you seriously. ATM trust me no one is really doing so. It's your choice, we can presume you have free will, but common sense. Well that is another matter.