What is the concept of God philosophically?

[Martin Peter Clarke]

What exactly are you predicting about Pope Leo? We are actually facing Armageddon.
It's not because of any Christian myth, or politicised Xianity that we face Armageddon.

I'm referring to Armageddon as mentioned in the Bible and taught by religion -- a final struggle between good and evil -- 'place where the kings of the earth under demonic leadership will wage war on the forces of God at the end of history.'

Pope Leo might represent 'good' in that predicted scenario. Trump could represent 'the opposite to everything Christ-like (aka antichrist).' Perhaps the stage is being set. I think human beings are capable of manifesting all kinds of things, individually and collectively. Religion can be a vehicle for collective manifestati Which ons.

We face Armageddon because of man-made climate change and resulting fears for our safety.

Isn't climate change more about extinction than Armageddon?

Anthropogenic climate change cannot possibly cause ELE. Only MAD can do that. Of which ACC is one indeterminable, contingent factor.

[Belinda]

What exactly are you predicting about Pope Leo? We are actually facing Armageddon.
It's not because of any Christian myth, or politicised Xianity that we face Armageddon.

I'm referring to Armageddon as mentioned in the Bible and taught by religion -- a final struggle between good and evil -- 'place where the kings of the earth under demonic leadership will wage war on the forces of God at the end of history.'

Pope Leo might represent 'good' in that predicted scenario. Trump could represent 'the opposite to everything Christ-like (aka antichrist).' Perhaps the stage is being set. I think human beings are capable of manifesting all kinds of things, individually and collectively. Religion can be a vehicle for collective manifestati Which ons.

We face Armageddon because of man-made climate change and resulting fears for our safety.

Isn't climate change more about extinction than Armageddon?

Anthropogenic climate change cannot possibly cause ELE. Only MAD can do that. Of which ACC is one indeterminable, contingent factor.

Armageddon is a poetic name for the ultimate war of extinction.
In my venture into futurology the dots I am joining up are the world -wide swing to the political right and depletion of natural resources.

I can't find out what ELE, MAD ,and ACC stand for.

[Martin Peter Clarke]

1 Anthropogenic Climate Change
2 Earth Life Extinction Event
3 Mutually Assured Destruction

1 != 2, 3
1 > 3=2

[Belinda]

1 Anthropogenic Climate Change
2 Earth Life Extinction Event
3 Mutually Assured Destruction

1 != 2, 3
1 > 3=2

Ta. I grant you I'd have been better to write 'Mutually assured destruction ' than 'Armageddon'. The Biblical /poetic term is not apt at all, sorry. However I expect you will agree good poetry is concise.

As for 'anthropogenic climate change' I agree that life will become extinguished some time however man made climate change can be ameliorated even now in 2025 , and the earth -life- extinction- event postponed for the foreseeable future.

I have put out a shallow plate with a layer of gravel , some chopped apple cores, and some water for the bees. because they drown if they try to drink water too deep for them--they have to stand on wee stones.

[Martin Peter Clarke]

1 Anthropogenic Climate Change
2 Earth Life Extinction Event
3 Mutually Assured Destruction

1 != 2, 3
1 > 3=2

Ta. I grant you I'd have been better to write 'Mutually assured destruction ' than 'Armageddon'. The Biblical /poetic term is not apt at all, sorry. However I expect you will agree good poetry is concise.

As for 'anthropogenic climate change' I agree that life will become extinguished some time however man made climate change can be ameliorated even now in 2025 , and the earth -life- extinction- event postponed for the foreseeable future.

I have put out a shallow plate with a layer of gravel , some chopped apple cores, and some water for the bees. because they drown if they try to drink water too deep for them--they have to stand on wee stones.

Nice. Well done. Thank you. Absent MAD, ELE can only happen in 5bn years, when the sun goes red giant. We'll be long gone in a tenth of a percent of that. Wherever you are, you're half way.

And yes, Apocalypse is great poetry, like Milton.

[Belinda]

1 Anthropogenic Climate Change
2 Earth Life Extinction Event
3 Mutually Assured Destruction

1 != 2, 3
1 > 3=2

Ta. I grant you I'd have been better to write 'Mutually assured destruction ' than 'Armageddon'. The Biblical /poetic term is not apt at all, sorry. However I expect you will agree good poetry is concise.

As for 'anthropogenic climate change' I agree that life will become extinguished some time however man made climate change can be ameliorated even now in 2025 , and the earth -life- extinction- event postponed for the foreseeable future.

I have put out a shallow plate with a layer of gravel , some chopped apple cores, and some water for the bees. because they drown if they try to drink water too deep for them--they have to stand on wee stones.

Nice. Well done. Thank you. Absent MAD, ELE can only happen in 5bn years, when the sun goes red giant. We'll be long gone in a tenth of a percent of that. Wherever you are, you're half way.

And yes, Apocalypse is great poetry, like Milton.

I know it's right to put out water for the bees! Do you or do you not believe in fighting back against doom?

Do you or do you not believe that greed is caused by fear of loss?

[Janoah]

Is this thread supposed to be a philosophical concept of God of the Bible?

Perhaps Lacewing is right, there are no restrictions, it is only advisable to argue with philosophical proofs, and not with old wives' tales.
The connection of a philosophical concept with what is said in the Bible is welcome.
For example, Maimonides in his book "The Guide for the Perplexed" explains how to understand what is said in the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible) based on a philosophical concept.
By "perplexed", he means those who know the philosophical proofs, particularly Aristotle, and are perplexed by the literal understanding of the Tanakh.
Maimonides explains that anything that contradicts reason and philosophical proofs should be understood allegorically.

[Janoah]

'place where the kings of the earth under demonic leadership will wage war on the forces of God at the end of history.'

The belief in demons opposing God is a deviation from monotheism.
For there is nothing that is not subordinate to God.

[Gary Childress]

'place where the kings of the earth under demonic leadership will wage war on the forces of God at the end of history.'

The belief in demons opposing God is a deviation from monotheism.
For there is nothing that is not subordinate to God.

Demons are what some humans use to explain evil in the world so that they can call God benevolent. Seems to me that if there is a single creator or central supreme being, then it's responsible for everything, good and bad.

I've met Christians who refer to "the enemy". "The enemy" deliberately temps them away from God or brings miserable events into their lives or makes them feel shame. "The enemy" is some sentient agent that arranges traps and all sorts of diabolical ways of making us miserable, according to them. When talking about transcendent, outside-of-this-world stuff, I guess anyone can say pretty much anything they want, since no one can verify it one way or the other.

[Martin Peter Clarke]

Is this thread supposed to be a philosophical concept of God of the Bible?

The o.p. says: "So, what is your definition of God? This applies to both theists and atheists."

Doesn't seem limited to the Bible. At least, that's my impression.

There can be no philosophical concept of the evolved God of the Bible. He's an obsolete construct, a ruin, Ozymandias. A transcendent desert storm god humanistically recast temporarily as a humble man of the people, to show us the way of sacrificial inclusion. Marred by giving us Hell and damnation. Nothing of philosophical import. One has to go beyond the God of the Bible to even try to be philosophically coherent. To posit an intentional ground of being that therefore confers purpose. Without any justification whatsoever. Snapping Occam's razor vertically, infinitely.

[Age]

Who and what the word God has been referring to, since that word's inception, is very, very basic, and very, very easy and simple to comprehend, and understand.

But, for any one with a contrary belief, then obviously while they have and maintain 'that belief' they will just not be able to comprehend and understand, full stop. Let alone comprehend and understand simply and easily.

And, as always, if any one, here, has the courage to challenge me over this, or just has the curiosity and interest to question me over this, then allow 'us' to have a discussion.

Until then, as can be seen, here, 'these posters' will just keep providing their own personal assumptions and beliefs, no matter how Truly False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect they really are. What will also become blatantly obvious is that when they are questioned and/or challenged over their assumptions, beliefs, and claims, here, by me, they on just about all occasions falter and fail completely.

[Martin Peter Clarke]

'place where the kings of the earth under demonic leadership will wage war on the forces of God at the end of history.'

The belief in demons opposing God is a deviation from monotheism.
For there is nothing that is not subordinate to God.

Demons are what some humans use to explain evil in the world so that they can call God benevolent. Seems to me that if there is a single creator or central supreme being, then it's responsible for everything, good and bad.

I've met Christians who refer to "the enemy". "The enemy" deliberately temps them away from God or brings miserable events into their lives or makes them feel shame. "The enemy" is some sentient agent that arranges traps and all sorts of diabolical ways of making us miserable, according to them. When talking about transcendent, outside-of-this-world stuff, I guess anyone can say pretty much anything they want, since no one can verify it one way or the other.

So why would any rational person give these folk beliefs philosophical consideration? Even the mechanism of belief is covered by psychology, not Russell's twilight world of philosophy.

[Walker]

Who and what the word God has been referring to, since that word's inception, is very, very basic, and very, very easy and simple to comprehend, and understand.

God is the source of all answers ...

[Age]

Who and what the word God has been referring to, since that word's inception, is very, very basic, and very, very easy and simple to comprehend, and understand.

God is the source of all answers ...

And thus how one knows when it has the actual True, Right, Accurate, and Correct answers, in Life.

Which is why 'I' challenge any of 'you', here, to challenge 'Me', HERE.

[Belinda]

'place where the kings of the earth under demonic leadership will wage war on the forces of God at the end of history.'

The belief in demons opposing God is a deviation from monotheism.
For there is nothing that is not subordinate to God.

Demons are what some humans use to explain evil in the world so that they can call God benevolent. Seems to me that if there is a single creator or central supreme being, then it's responsible for everything, good and bad.

I've met Christians who refer to "the enemy". "The enemy" deliberately temps them away from God or brings miserable events into their lives or makes them feel shame. "The enemy" is some sentient agent that arranges traps and all sorts of diabolical ways of making us miserable, according to them. When talking about transcendent, outside-of-this-world stuff, I guess anyone can say pretty much anything they want, since no one can verify it one way or the other.

It is reasonable that if I posit a person Who is the force for Good then I must posit a person who is the force for Evil,