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Age wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 11:12 am If this is what you believe, then okay.

But, I asked you, Why do you have a continual belief that I am, supposedly, trying to, so-call, 'emotion-shame' you here "iwannaplato"?

Are you able to answer and clarify this question?

If yes, then will you do it?

But, if no, then why not?

Because, given the way your communicate, it would be a waste of time. And I have both explained why that is my evaluation a number of times and given examples, along with justifications.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 11:24 am

Age wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 11:12 am If this is what you believe, then okay.

But, I asked you, Why do you have a continual belief that I am, supposedly, trying to, so-call, 'emotion-shame' you here "iwannaplato"?

Are you able to answer and clarify this question?

If yes, then will you do it?

But, if no, then why not?

Because, given the way your communicate, it would be a waste of time.

Once again, no actual clear and direct clarity is provided.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 11:24 am And I have both explained why that is my evaluation a number of times and given examples, along with justifications.

Okay. And, I have justified my claims here. Although this is obviously contrary to your belief here. A 'belief' let 'us' not forget that you admit could be completely and utterly False, Wrong, and Incorrect.

Age wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 12:56 pm If this is what you believe, then okay.

But, I asked you, Why do you have a continual belief that I am, supposedly, trying to, so-call, 'emotion-shame' you here "iwannaplato"?

Are you able to answer and clarify this question?

If yes, then will you do it?

But, if no, then why not?

Because, given the way your communicate, it would be a waste of time.

Once again, no actual clear and direct clarity is provided.

Wow. You poor thing. My response meant that I was not going to answer the question and in response to 'why not?', I wrote 'because, given the way you communicate, it would be a waste of time'. I hope that you can find clarity regarding those parts I wished to answer. If you can't find clarity there, I suggest some more basic adult education courses for you might be in order.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 11:24 am And I have both explained why that is my evaluation a number of times and given examples, along with justifications.

Okay. And, I have justified my claims here. Although this is obviously contrary to your belief here. A 'belief' let 'us' not forget that you admit could be completely and utterly False, Wrong, and Incorrect.

Just as your beliefs can be wrong, but which you cannot admit.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 1:22 pm

Age wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 12:56 pm If this is what you believe, then okay.

But, I asked you, Why do you have a continual belief that I am, supposedly, trying to, so-call, 'emotion-shame' you here "iwannaplato"?

Are you able to answer and clarify this question?

If yes, then will you do it?

But, if no, then why not?

Because, given the way your communicate, it would be a waste of time.

Once again, no actual clear and direct clarity is provided.

Wow. You poor thing. My response meant that I was not going to answer the question and in response to 'why not?', I wrote 'because, given the way you communicate, it would be a waste of time'.

I knew you would miss it, completely. Or, maybe in words you are more familiar with, I knew this would go 'right over your head', as some would say.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 1:22 pm I hope that you can find clarity regarding those parts I wished to answer. If you can't find clarity there, I suggest some more basic adult education courses for you might be in order.

LOL If you only knew what you are missing here "iwannaplato".

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 1:22 pm

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 11:24 am And I have both explained why that is my evaluation a number of times and given examples, along with justifications.

Okay. And, I have justified my claims here. Although this is obviously contrary to your belief here. A 'belief' let 'us' not forget that you admit could be completely and utterly False, Wrong, and Incorrect.

Just as your beliefs can be wrong, but which you cannot admit.

LOL
LOL
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Considering what the actual irrefutable Truth is here, exactly, you are, completely, 'way off', and have 'missed the mark', absolutely, once again.

Age wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 1:55 pm I knew you would miss it, completely. Or, maybe in words you are more familiar with, I knew this would go 'right over your head', as some would say.

Nice priorities you have, LOL.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 1:22 pm I hope that you can find clarity regarding those parts I wished to answer. If you can't find clarity there, I suggest some more basic adult education courses for you might be in order.

LOL If you only knew what you are missing here "iwannaplato".

If only you knew how stupid you sound when you use this kind of opening to a sentence.

Okay. And, I have justified my claims here. Although this is obviously contrary to your belief here. A 'belief' let 'us' not forget that you admit could be completely and utterly False, Wrong, and Incorrect.

Just as your beliefs can be wrong, but which you cannot admit.

Considering what the actual irrefutable Truth is here, exactly, you are, completely, 'way off', and have 'missed the mark', absolutely, once again.

Just keep reassuring yourself, if you need to.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 2:36 pm

Age wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 1:55 pm I knew you would miss it, completely. Or, maybe in words you are more familiar with, I knew this would go 'right over your head', as some would say.

Nice priorities you have, LOL.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 1:22 pm I hope that you can find clarity regarding those parts I wished to answer. If you can't find clarity there, I suggest some more basic adult education courses for you might be in order.

LOL If you only knew what you are missing here "iwannaplato".

If only you knew how stupid you sound when you use this kind of opening to a sentence.

But, it would only 'sound stupid' to only those who believe that it could not be backed up and supported with actual proof.

Now, as I keep informing you here, what I say and claim here can be, and will be, backed up and supported with proof. Thus, what I am saying and claiming here is absolutely True, Right, Accurate, and/or Correct. And, this is an irrefutable Fact.

Also, notice how Truly simple and easy it is to 'act' in different ways, in order to manipulate or to just get human beings to think, and believe, in certain ways, and thus to also mis/behave in certain ways, as well.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 2:36 pm

Okay. And, I have justified my claims here. Although this is obviously contrary to your belief here. A 'belief' let 'us' not forget that you admit could be completely and utterly False, Wrong, and Incorrect.

Just as your beliefs can be wrong, but which you cannot admit.

Considering what the actual irrefutable Truth is here, exactly, you are, completely, 'way off', and have 'missed the mark', absolutely, once again.

Just keep reassuring yourself, if you need to.

LOL The one who is 'trying' so, so very hard to 'reassure' "them" 'self' of some thing that is False and Wrong here is the one with 'beliefs'.

And, again, I only have 'one belief' only. And, 'that belief' is, certainly, nothing like absolutely any of the things that you believe that you 'have to' believe here, or just want to believe are true here.

you come here with so many claims, and accusations,yet you have some absolute fear of just being open and honest when you are questioned and/or challenged over 'your claims and accusations'.

Look "iwannaplato", Why do you even come here, in a philosophy forum, of all places, and make claims and accusations?

Age wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 1:55 pm I knew you would miss it, completely. Or, maybe in words you are more familiar with, I knew this would go 'right over your head', as some would say.

Nice priorities you have, LOL.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 1:22 pm I hope that you can find clarity regarding those parts I wished to answer. If you can't find clarity there, I suggest some more basic adult education courses for you might be in order.

LOL If you only knew what you are missing here "iwannaplato".

If only you knew how stupid you sound when you use this kind of opening to a sentence.[/quote]

But, it would only 'sound stupid' to only those who believe that it could not be backed up and supported with actual proof.

It sounds stupid regardless. Also, back what up? There's no assertion.

LOL If you only knew what you are missing here "iwannaplato".

It's an incomplete conditional sentence. But of course when you use tropic, gestural speech it's fine. And if you could back it up what ever the assertion would be if you finished the sentence, it would actually be, not just sound, even stupider. You opted to write a contentless assertion, instead of presenting some content. And now you are talking about proving this incompletel sentence is true.

In a philosophy forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - [throws hissy fit]

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 7:59 pm

Age wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 1:55 pm I knew you would miss it, completely. Or, maybe in words you are more familiar with, I knew this would go 'right over your head', as some would say.

Nice priorities you have, LOL.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 1:22 pm I hope that you can find clarity regarding those parts I wished to answer. If you can't find clarity there, I suggest some more basic adult education courses for you might be in order.

LOL If you only knew what you are missing here "iwannaplato".

If only you knew how stupid you sound when you use this kind of opening to a sentence.

But, it would only 'sound stupid' to only those who believe that it could not be backed up and supported with actual proof.

It sounds stupid regardless. Also, back what up? There's no assertion. [/quote]

Here you 'now' claim 'that there is no assertion'. But, you also ask, 'back what up'?

So, once again, this one presents a question, while at the exact same time showing and revealing its very belief, which it is holding onto, absolutely.

See, if it presented its question here, from a Truly open perspective, instead of from a completely closed perspective, then I would have just answered it. But, what this one is doing, and showing and revealing, here is the very thing that happens to those who have and hold beliefs. And, it is what this one is doing here, exactly, which will be used as irrefutable proof of what I will be claiming about how the brain works, in correlation with the beief-system, and how absolutely detrimental these can be to human beings, and their continued survival here.

Walker wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 9:49 am

LOL If you only knew what you are missing here "iwannaplato".

It's an incomplete conditional sentence. But of course when you use tropic, gestural speech it's fine. And if you could back it up what ever the assertion would be if you finished the sentence, it would actually be, not just sound, even stupider.

But, the Fact that you have missed 'the assertion' here is of no surprise at all, especially considering just how much you miss here.

And, the Fact that 'the assertion' is there, but you believe 'there is none', makes 'the reason' why you 'miss so much' even far more obvious.

Walker wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 9:49 am You opted to write a contentless assertion,

you opted to just be satisfied with 'this conclusion', and 'assertion', of yours here.

Walker wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 9:49 am instead of presenting some content.

you opted to just assume and believe some thing, instead of seeking out and obtaining actual clarification, again.

Walker wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 9:49 am And now you are talking about proving this incompletel sentence is true.

What do you believe is incomplete about that sentence?

Walker wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 9:49 am In a philosophy forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - [throws hissy fit]

Why are you throwing a so-called 'hissy fit' here for?

Also, did you provide an example of an 'incomplete sentence' here on purpose?

Age wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 10:17 am Here you 'now' claim 'that there is no assertion'. But, you also ask, 'back what up'?

Yes, I worded two ways, to help make it clear.

If it isn't an assertion, then you haven't made it clear what you would be backing up. It wasn't an assertion. It was precisely what I said. And incomplete conditional. This can be expressive, of course. But since it made no claim, there was nothing to back up. I could only hope that my two ways of pointing out the silliness would increase the chances you would notice. But all it did is give you something to distract with. Which is why you like to get others to produce text.

Seriously, I doubt there are other readers and certainly none who care, but you do look stupid here.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 10:38 am

Age wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 10:17 am Here you 'now' claim 'that there is no assertion'. But, you also ask, 'back what up'?

Yes, I worded two ways, to help make it clear.

LOL Once again you just did it, again.

And, did it while completely, again, missing what you did, and keep doing.

Also, what you have made absolutely clear here, is your belief, and just how you believe in your own belief, here.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 10:38 am If it isn't an assertion,

LOL you are doing it again.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 10:38 am then you haven't made it clear what you would be backing up. It wasn't an assertion. It was precisely what I said.

So, in 'this one's own tiny little world' it was precisely, but not absolutely, not an assertion.

Yet, if absolutely any one was to ask this one, 'What even is, supposedly, not an assertion?' this one would fail, absolutely, to answer and clarify, Accurately.

Which makes observing what this one is actually doing here far more hilarious.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 10:38 am
And incomplete conditional. This can be expressive, of course. But since it made no claim, there was nothing to back up. I could only hope that my two ways of pointing out the silliness would increase the chances you would notice. But all it did is give you something to distract with. Which is why you like to get others to produce text.

But it is not what you think or believe it is. It is, actually not what you believe that is.

But, you would have already known this if you had not continually just assumed and presumed things here.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 10:38 am Seriously, I doubt there are other readers and certainly none who care, but you do look stupid here.

Okay. 'I' the one who looks stupid here.

Age wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 11:02 am So, in 'this one's own tiny little world' it was precisely, but not absolutely, not an assertion.

LOL If you only knew what you are missing here "iwannaplato".

There is no assertion in this to back or prove.
If you think there is, please prove that this assertion is true.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 1:22 pm

Age wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 11:02 am So, in 'this one's own tiny little world' it was precisely, but not absolutely, not an assertion.

LOL If you only knew what you are missing here "iwannaplato".

There is no assertion in this to back or prove.
If you think there is, please prove that this assertion is true.

Once again, this one does not notice and realize what it actually does here.

So, although this one believes that it was precisely not an assertion and believes that there is no assertion to back or prove 'now' it talks about 'this assertion'.

This one gets "itself" so lost and confused here because of the very thing that it does, but does not even notice and realize that it is doing.

What even is 'this' that there is, supposedly, no assertion at all in "iwannaplato"?

Show the readers here that you actually even know what you are talking about here.

Killing animals to eat meat, when there is no need to, is just one of the many things that is 'morally Wrong', in Life.

Now, if any one has any disagreement, or curiosity and interest, in what I just said and claimed here, then let 'us' have a Truly open and honest and peaceful discussion here.

Age wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2024 1:55 am

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 1:22 pm

Age wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 11:02 am So, in 'this one's own tiny little world' it was precisely, but not absolutely, not an assertion.

LOL If you only knew what you are missing here "iwannaplato".

There is no assertion in this to back or prove.
If you think there is, please prove that this assertion is true.

Once again, this one does not notice and realize what it actually does here.

So, although this one believes that it was precisely not an assertion and believes that there is no assertion to back or prove 'now' it talks about 'this assertion'.

The gaps in your understanding of communication are deep and broad. The word 'this' can indicate disbelief. If you haven't caught on that I don't believe there is an assertion in there, then, of course, you cannot interpret that sentence correctly. I was asking you to prove what you are claiming is an assertion. Ken's issues are now hardened into Age's patterns and considered immaculate.

But of course you won't prove that assertion true or even try.

You will always find something to focus on in the other person's communication, when you come near to noticing something more seriously wrong than a typo in your communciation.

So, you will never get around to proving what you seem to think that statement asserted. Because by this time having committed to it being wrong on my part to point out this problem, you simply cannot face that it was you that messed up, not me.

I withdraw my request because you are incapable of the honesty and introspection required to focus on what you said and this supposed proof. All you can do is focus outward. I don't think you are aware of what you are doing here. But in such situations there is often a bit of nagging doubt or peripheral awareness that people just want to jump past as fast as they can.

If someone else had written an incomplete sentence then said they could prove it was true and back it up, you'd likely notice the problem. But since you did it and dug in your heels, you no longer "can be wrong". So, yet another Age created dead end.