Racism

[FlashDangerpants]

Why are you avoiding all the questions your list raises?

We had to do our Quid Pro Quo first. Debate is a give-and-take, not a one-way street.
As it turns out, you're bad at reading. I'm reminded of your Literacy debacle a few weeks ago...
You missed this conclusion in the article you reprimanded me on:

https://qz.com/149342/the-uncomfortable ... ine-dating
"while all except black women preferred white men"
Is it interesting how you let that statement slip by?

Your claim was that white men and whote women are more attractive than other races. You have left out what that article says about women for the obvious reason.

The whole thing is neither here nor there to me, if your data were even supportive of your argument I was only going to ask for an explanation where race itself rather than racial prejudice is the causal factor and you would fail that test instead.

I think black and asian and white and whatever other races you are dividing them up into are all pretty much equally attractive. I am aware that lots of other people have fetishes about certain races, I don't really care on the whole, although some of it seems weird to me, it's no worse than being into feet really.

[Wizard22]

Your claim was that white men and whote women are more attractive than other races. You have left out what that article says about women for the obvious reason.

The whole thing is neither here nor there to me, if your data were even supportive of your argument I was only going to ask for an explanation where race itself rather than racial prejudice is the causal factor and you would fail that test instead.

I think black and asian and white and whatever other races you are dividing them up into are all pretty much equally attractive. I am aware that lots of other people have fetishes about certain races, I don't really care on the whole, although some of it seems weird to me, it's no worse than being into feet really.

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/usappblog/2015/ ... er-groups/

"Researchers have long documented the existence of a racial hierarchy within the U.S. dating world, with White women and men the most preferred partners, Blacks the least preferred, and Asians and Latinos falling somewhere in between."

Celeste Vaughan Curington – University of Massachusetts-Amherst
Celeste Vaughan Curington is a doctoral student in the Sociology Department at the University of Massachusetts- Amherst. Her research interests include race and ethnicity, labor migration, and qualitative and quantitative methods. She is currently exploring African gendered migration and subsequent entrance into care economies in Portugal. Her other projects center on U.S. multiracial identity formation and the locational attainment of interracial households in Los Angeles County. Her recent work on multiracial identity has appeared in the journals American Sociological Review and Sociology of Race and Ethnicity.

And actual researchers say you're wrong.
Are you a Doctoral student in Sociology?
What are your credentials?

[FlashDangerpants]

Your claim was that white men and whote women are more attractive than other races. You have left out what that article says about women for the obvious reason.

The whole thing is neither here nor there to me, if your data were even supportive of your argument I was only going to ask for an explanation where race itself rather than racial prejudice is the causal factor and you would fail that test instead.

I think black and asian and white and whatever other races you are dividing them up into are all pretty much equally attractive. I am aware that lots of other people have fetishes about certain races, I don't really care on the whole, although some of it seems weird to me, it's no worse than being into feet really.

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/usappblog/2015/ ... er-groups/

"Researchers have long documented the existence of a racial hierarchy within the U.S. dating world, with White women and men the most preferred partners, Blacks the least preferred, and Asians and Latinos falling somewhere in between."

Celeste Vaughan Curington – University of Massachusetts-Amherst
Celeste Vaughan Curington is a doctoral student in the Sociology Department at the University of Massachusetts- Amherst. Her research interests include race and ethnicity, labor migration, and qualitative and quantitative methods. She is currently exploring African gendered migration and subsequent entrance into care economies in Portugal. Her other projects center on U.S. multiracial identity formation and the locational attainment of interracial households in Los Angeles County. Her recent work on multiracial identity has appeared in the journals American Sociological Review and Sociology of Race and Ethnicity.

And actual researchers say you're wrong.
Are you a Doctoral student in Sociology?
What are your credentials?

As I've already said, I noted that you incompetently cited sources that contradicted your claim just because it indicates how shit you are. But it is a pointless aside that isn't worth getting hung up on. I am asking what evidence you have for race being the cause rather than racial prejudice, cultural factors, and historical ecomonic relations.

[Wizard22]

As I've already said, I noted that you incompetently cited sources that contradicted your claim just because it indicates how shit you are.

You proved that you did not read the sources nor understood their conclusions nor contexts.

But it is a pointless aside that isn't worth getting hung up on. I am asking what evidence you have

You proved that no matter what source I present, you will not read it nor understand it.

for race being the cause rather than racial prejudice, cultural factors, and historical ecomonic relations.

If one race is more beautiful than all the others, then "prejudice" is a secondary factor to it, not a primary one.

In order to understand the primary cause, you'd need to first explain how one race became/evolved more beautiful than the others.

But I know this is far above your IQ-level...

[vegetariantaxidermy]

As I've already said, I noted that you incompetently cited sources that contradicted your claim just because it indicates how shit you are.

You proved that you did not read the sources nor understood their conclusions nor contexts.

But it is a pointless aside that isn't worth getting hung up on. I am asking what evidence you have

You proved that no matter what source I present, you will not read it nor understand it.

for race being the cause rather than racial prejudice, cultural factors, and historical ecomonic relations.

If one race is more beautiful than all the others, then "prejudice" is a secondary factor to it, not a primary one.

In order to understand the primary cause, you'd need to first explain how one race became/evolved more beautiful than the others.

But I know this is far above your IQ-level...

It's ridiculous anyway. There are some groups of people, often quite isolated who are very beautiful. I remember seeing a 'Who do you think you are episode' when someone went back to their ancestral village. I can't remember where it was but every single person there was beautiful, including the very old ones. It was somewhere in Asia anyway. Same with Afghans. Stunningly beautiful. They carry a gene for green eyes that a lot of them have.

[Wizard22]

It's ridiculous anyway. There are some groups of people, often quite isolated who are very beautiful. I remember seeing a 'Who do you think you are episode' when someone went back to their ancestral village. I can't remember where it was but every single person there was beautiful, including the very old ones. It was somewhere in Asia anyway. Same with Afghans. Stunningly beautiful. They carry a gene for green eyes that a lot of them have.

The argument is based on racial averages, not the exceptions.

[FlashDangerpants]

for race being the cause rather than racial prejudice, cultural factors, and historical ecomonic relations.

If one race is more beautiful than all the others, then "prejudice" is a secondary factor to it, not a primary one.

In order to understand the primary cause, you'd need to first explain how one race became/evolved more beautiful than the others.

But I know this is far above your IQ-level...

You are merely insinuating race as the causal element and hoping nobody will call you on it.

[Sculptor]

The weekend? So not American then. Unsurprising. Americans ironically don't tend to present as cocky and arrogant--just LOUD. I'm guessing Australian. There aren't that many countries to choose from in that time zone.

Is that so?? Well, you're wrong! And it's hard not to be arrogant and cocky while manhandling British "intellectuals"!

It is my view that anyone using this forum to spout RACIST views should attract a lifetime ban.

Posting videos of live murder should also be a banning offence.

This is Philosophy Now, not Breitbart or Fox News.

If there is ANY use for moderation surely this is where the limit is reached.

[Wizard22]

It is my view that anyone using this forum to spout RACIST views should attract a lifetime ban.

Posting videos of live murder should also be a banning offence.

This is Philosophy Now, not Breitbart or Fox News.

If there is ANY use for moderation surely this is where the limit is reached.

We already discussed this. You're the racist, not me.
Secondly, the video does not show live murder.
Thirdly, this is the consequence of what you hope for, your "not racist utopia".
You should be happy about it; it's what you want.
You want any and all white communities or suburbs to be ghettoized and import the third world into them.

[Wizard22]

You are merely insinuating race as the causal element and hoping nobody will call you on it.

I'm demonstrating that you are intellectually incapable of understanding the causal element.

Why is one race, on average, more beautiful than the others? Now let's see how you dodge...

[FlashDangerpants]

You are merely insinuating race as the causal element and hoping nobody will call you on it.

I'm demonstrating that you are intellectually incapable of understanding the causal element.

Why is one race, on average, more beautiful than the others? Now let's see how you dodge...

You had an outside chance that if you stuck to attractiveness as the phenomenon in question I might allow a quantitative move simply for the sake of argument, or just out of boredom. But now you've explicitly referred to the purely evaluative concept of beauty, I can't see any hope for you to get to your 'true racism' this way.

It may be a fact that you, an obvious white nationalist, think black people are ugly, but that judgment cannot be justified by data in any format.

[Wizard22]

think black people are ugly,

You're straw-manning now, pay attention.
These are your words, not mine...

[FlashDangerpants]

Yawn.

Facts
White males and females are the highest desirability on average for miscegenation.
This is because of the prominence of Western Civilization in political & economic power.
Beauty standards revolve around Western (White) women.
Miscegenation is not generally practiced around the world, except in Cosmopolitan areas.
Miscegenation coincides directly with Liberalism/Zionism/Marxism (your worldview).
Miscegenation also coincides with pro-Immigration policies and Desegregation (Liberalism).
IQ and Intelligence have scientifically measured degrees of genetic heritability.
Genetic heritability reflects dating, and therefore mating-patterns.

We can colour in your first premise there as red for Junk. There is no quantitative method available for judging beauty. Without that there is no way to disentangle cause and outcome in any measurment of attraction rates within or between races. Thus you cannot measure the value of race versus that of racial prejudice. You didn't even bother to try and compensate for income disparities, let alone any other cultural factor.

Prominence of western culture is a bit of a nothingburger. This thing about beauty standards and white women is contingent so there's no point even bothering to address whether it can be a natural truth. We'll make them purple for pointlessness.

Your next plausible candidate for a factual claim would be that "Miscegenation is not generally practiced around the world, except in Cosmopolitan areas." It doesn't really make any sense though, metropolitan areas are the ones where racial mixing is expected to occur, no? What was the point of this claim please?

It seems to matter for this Jewish miscegenation conspiracy theory that we are about to have to wade into...

[vegetariantaxidermy]

It is my view that anyone using this forum to spout RACIST views should attract a lifetime ban.

Posting videos of live murder should also be a banning offence.

This is Philosophy Now, not Breitbart or Fox News.

If there is ANY use for moderation surely this is where the limit is reached.

We already discussed this. You're the racist, not me.
Secondly, the video does not show live murder.
Thirdly, this is the consequence of what you hope for, your "not racist utopia".
You should be happy about it; it's what you want.
You want any and all white communities or suburbs to be ghettoized and import the third world into them.

He doesn't seem to care when promethean keeps posting links to some revolting site called 'best gore' dot com or when he glorifies serial killers who rape and torture women to death.

Where Sculptor works and resides is so white that he's probably never seen a non white person in his life--a common trait of wonkers.
He hates me because I confront him with the truth of his hypocrisy. He has no answer for it, except to throw around the 'R&B' words (which has worn thin), so he pretends to not read my posts

[Alexis Jacobi]

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