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Jaded Sage wrote:How is that different from intelligence or knowledge? I assume there is a difference, that wisdom, knowledge and intelligence are not all the same one thing.

Like I've told you, a lot of crap believed to be actual legitimate knowledge or intelligence isn't. Wisdom is that which allows some to figure out which are which. Wisdom comes when one finds unresolvable contradictions between those things that are accepted as intelligence or knowledge. Wisdom allows one first to know that there is such contradiction, second to know the fullest extent of the why and how of the contradiction, thus the actual truthful fact of the matter, or that it's still an unknown. So wisdom allows one to see the framework of the matrix. (please pardon the reference to the movie as a metaphor so as to convey the idea.)

SpheresOfBalance wrote:

Jaded Sage wrote:How is that different from intelligence or knowledge? I assume there is a difference, that wisdom, knowledge and intelligence are not all the same one thing.

Like I've told you, a lot of crap believed to be actual legitimate knowledge or intelligence isn't. Wisdom is that which allows some to figure out which are which. Wisdom comes when one finds unresolvable contradictions between those things that are accepted as intelligence or knowledge. Wisdom allows one first to know that there is such contradiction, second to know the fullest extent of the why and how of the contradiction, thus the actual truthful fact of the matter, or that it's still an unknown. So wisdom allows one to see the framework of the matrix. (please pardon the reference to the movie as a metaphor so as to convey the idea.)

Now this is acceptable to me.

yiostheoy wrote:

Jaded Sage wrote:How is that different from intelligence or knowledge? I assume there is a difference, that wisdom, knowledge and intelligence are not all the same one thing.

Wisdom = high intelligence + experience from age.

Cute. Puts my on ignore then paraphrases my answers.


People can have knowledge and not know what to do with it. Intelligence helps. But I think wisdom is what happens when you have knowledge and intelligence but also the experience to bring the two together.

Wisdom is the love of learning.

Hobbes' Choice wrote:

yiostheoy wrote:

Jaded Sage wrote:How is that different from intelligence or knowledge? I assume there is a difference, that wisdom, knowledge and intelligence are not all the same one thing.

Wisdom = high intelligence + experience from age.

Cute. Puts my on ignore then paraphrases my answers.


People can have knowledge and not know what to do with it. Intelligence helps. But I think wisdom is what happens when you have knowledge and intelligence but also the experience to bring the two together.

Much Better HC:

Below are the first (main) definitions for those two words.
intelligence [in-tel-i-juh ns]
noun
1. capacity for learning, reasoning, understanding, and similar forms of mental activity; aptitude in grasping truths, relationships, facts, meanings, etc.

knowledge [nol-ij]
noun
1. acquaintance with facts, truths, or principles, as from study or investigation; general erudition: knowledge of many things.

And finally:

wisdom [wiz-duh m]
noun
1. the quality or state of being wise; knowledge of what is true or right coupled with just judgment as to action; sagacity, discernment, or insight.

wise1 [wahyz]
adjective, wiser, wisest.
1. having the power of discerning and judging properly as to what is true or right; possessing discernment, judgment, or discretion.

As you can see, now HC and I are both correct!

For all you that want to somehow down play truth, see that truth is the one constant in all four definitions.

***All Definitions are from Dictionary.com***

So they're all different. Then we need to stop using them interchangably.

Jaded Sage wrote:So they're all different. Then we need to stop using them interchangably.

The meaning of words is not guaranteed by a dictionary which simply reflects the best guess at COMMON usage. An experienced speaker has little use for a dictionary, but with wisdom comes to have a more nuanced and mature understanding of how the meaning of words is more closely related to the CONTEXT of their use.
Any fool can look up a word.
You might be horrified, as I was to note that the word;"literal/;literally" has now attracted the wrong definition in modern additions. This literally made my blood boil.

Your effort is misplaced.

Jaded Sage wrote:Your effort is misplaced.

We can but try.

Imagined if you put effort into philosophy instead of bullshit.

Hobbes' Choice wrote:

Jaded Sage wrote:So they're all different. Then we need to stop using them interchangably.

The meaning of words is not guaranteed by a dictionary which simply reflects the best guess at COMMON usage. An experienced speaker has little use for a dictionary,
There's that twisted sense of superiority rearing it's ugly head again, but then it has been radiated! Is it any wonder?

but with wisdom comes to have a more nuanced and mature understanding of how the meaning of words is more closely related to the CONTEXT of their use.
Any fool can look up a word.
You might be horrified, as I was to note that the word;"literal/;literally" has now attracted the wrong definition in modern additions.

This literally made my blood boil.
We all couldn't be so lucky!

literally [lit-er-uh-lee]
adverb
1. in the literal or strict sense: She failed to grasp the metaphor and interpreted the poem literally. What does the word mean literally?
So what's wrong with that? Correct it, if you will, oh wise one.

Jaded Sage wrote:Your effort is misplaced.

The cry for insiders strength through cronyism and groupism, yet in reality, purely fear based cowardice, and quite incorrect as well. I thank the forces that be, that I don't suffer from peer pressure.

Hobbes' Choice wrote:

Jaded Sage wrote:Your effort is misplaced.

We can but try.

And a response of the same caliber, pathetic!

SpheresOfBalance wrote:

Hobbes' Choice wrote:

Jaded Sage wrote:So they're all different. Then we need to stop using them interchangably.

The meaning of words is not guaranteed by a dictionary which simply reflects the best guess at COMMON usage. An experienced speaker has little use for a dictionary,
There's that twisted sense of superiority rearing it's ugly head again, but then it has been radiated! Is it any wonder?

but with wisdom comes to have a more nuanced and mature understanding of how the meaning of words is more closely related to the CONTEXT of their use.
Any fool can look up a word.
You might be horrified, as I was to note that the word;"literal/;literally" has now attracted the wrong definition in modern additions.

This literally made my blood boil.
We all couldn't be so lucky!

literally [lit-er-uh-lee]
adverb
1. in the literal or strict sense: She failed to grasp the metaphor and interpreted the poem literally. What does the word mean literally?
So what's wrong with that? Correct it, if you will, oh wise one.

MODERN supplementary definition:

informal
used for emphasis while not being literally true.
"I have received literally thousands of letters"

Jaded Sage wrote:So they're all different. Then we need to stop using them interchangably.

Hobbes' Choice wrote:

SpheresOfBalance wrote:

Hobbes' Choice wrote:
The meaning of words is not guaranteed by a dictionary which simply reflects the best guess at COMMON usage. An experienced speaker has little use for a dictionary,
There's that twisted sense of superiority rearing it's ugly head again, but then it has been radiated! Is it any wonder?

but with wisdom comes to have a more nuanced and mature understanding of how the meaning of words is more closely related to the CONTEXT of their use.
Any fool can look up a word.
You might be horrified, as I was to note that the word;"literal/;literally" has now attracted the wrong definition in modern additions.

This literally made my blood boil.
We all couldn't be so lucky!

literally [lit-er-uh-lee]
adverb
1. in the literal or strict sense: She failed to grasp the metaphor and interpreted the poem literally. What does the word mean literally?
So what's wrong with that? Correct it, if you will, oh wise one.

MODERN supplementary definition:

informal
used for emphasis while not being literally true.
"I have received literally thousands of letters"

Where, pray tell, did you find that one?

P.S. Sorry I attempted to bust your chops, but you should know by now the lengths I'll go to, in order to protect my words of absolute "knowledge". I am the universe, the universe is me!

I see that you can now be the bigger man and over look my snarkyness, bravo; seriously, bravo! I do in fact salute you for this apparent change, and I'm a very good judge of those who warrant kudos. I absolutely respect projected maturity! Again, Bravo!