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Magnus Anderson wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 11:04 am

Age wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 10:48 am It is good to see you edited.

And, if you can say and write, 'There you go. Completely incapable of answering simple questions', then so to 'I' can, and might. But, then again, if 'I' did, then what actual proof would 'I' have, exactly. Obviously, there you went again, not answering simple questions, but are 'you', like 'me', supposedly, 'completely incapable' of doing so?

Stop dodging the question.

Stop dodging the question.

Age wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 10:05 am

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 9:46 am Age wrote: “'We' have just chosen different words to 'point to' the exact same Thing. And, 'I' have offered to 'work' 'with you', in order to find the 'Right words', but 'you' chose to 'go alone', here. I have respected your choice, and so have left you to it.”

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Response: Yes, I chose to go my own way. But I really do want to work with you. I want more than ever for human beings to work together without misunderstanding or misinterpretation. I want to live in a world where humans don’t lie, where humans just be genuine honest and trustworthy and truthful.

That would be a nice world, but I’ve not experienced such a world, have you?

'This human body' has not, yet, experienced 'a world' where T.R.U.E L.O.V.E. exists. That is, Trust, Respect, Understanding, Empathy, with Loyalty {Honesty] and Openness with and for every one (as One). However, 'I' have 'experienced 'this world' in vision or concept.

Now, if you adult human beings really do want to live together, as One, in peace and in harmony without any misunderstanding nor misinterpretations, then as 'I' have been saying, and suggesting, all along, here, if you adult human beings just stopped assuming and believing things, and just sought out, and obtained and gained, actual clarification and clarity, first, and only, then absolutely none of you would be expressing False, Wrong, Inaccurate, nor Incorrect things. you all would, literally, find and see the actual irrefutable Truth of things, in Life.

From you just being Truly Honest, then you, naturally, are being Open, and if you are Truly Open and Honest while seriously seeking to change, for the better, then you will find and obtain 'the ways' to make 'life', itself, better for every one. Which could only really happen when working together, for the exact same 'goal', as One. So, through just always being OPEN while being Truly curious what 'others' are actually meaning in what they say and write, then asking Truly open clarifying questions take place, and then if the 'other' is Truly open and honest, with you, then finding the 'Right words', in Life, which will reveal the actual Truths, in Life, will just naturally come to the forefront.

Most adult human beings would like to work together, towards the exact same goal, living in peace and harmony with every one, as One, and live without absolutely any misunderstanding nor misinterpretations, unfortunately, though, no child has, yet, lived in 'this type of world', and because every child and adult can only know how to do things, from what they have previously experienced, none of you adults yet know how to actually work together peacefully, as One.

But, getting HERE is 'coming along'.

But isn’t everything just God’s will?

And that peace and contentment is found only when we know and become equal with God?
As I understand God, God created evil for a reason, so that we may know the real truth which is unconditional pure Love.

Age wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 1:12 pm Stop dodging the question.

Can you act in a more self-discrediting way?

Age wrote: “This human body' has not, yet, experienced 'a world' where T.R.U.E L.O.V.E. exists. That is, Trust, Respect, Understanding, Empathy, with Loyalty {Honesty] and Openness with and for every one (as One). However, 'I' have 'experienced 'this world' in vision or concept.”

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Response: That’s a nice acronym putting it like that. Good, good, very powerful stuff.

I honestly don’t think humans know how to Love like that Age.

Actually, come to think of it, I love all my children and grandchildren like that, so its not impossible..

I think it gets complicated when strangers try to love each other like that. I’m talking about when adults choose to commit to other adults in marriage, in consenting to commit to each other as soulmates. Or just to be in a relationship with someone else, I think all relationships are like a marriage. If there’s not T.R.U.E.L.O.V.E then it’s never going to work out.

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 1:21 pm

Age wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 10:05 am

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 9:46 am Age wrote: “'We' have just chosen different words to 'point to' the exact same Thing. And, 'I' have offered to 'work' 'with you', in order to find the 'Right words', but 'you' chose to 'go alone', here. I have respected your choice, and so have left you to it.”

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Response: Yes, I chose to go my own way. But I really do want to work with you. I want more than ever for human beings to work together without misunderstanding or misinterpretation. I want to live in a world where humans don’t lie, where humans just be genuine honest and trustworthy and truthful.

That would be a nice world, but I’ve not experienced such a world, have you?

'This human body' has not, yet, experienced 'a world' where T.R.U.E L.O.V.E. exists. That is, Trust, Respect, Understanding, Empathy, with Loyalty {Honesty] and Openness with and for every one (as One). However, 'I' have 'experienced 'this world' in vision or concept.

Now, if you adult human beings really do want to live together, as One, in peace and in harmony without any misunderstanding nor misinterpretations, then as 'I' have been saying, and suggesting, all along, here, if you adult human beings just stopped assuming and believing things, and just sought out, and obtained and gained, actual clarification and clarity, first, and only, then absolutely none of you would be expressing False, Wrong, Inaccurate, nor Incorrect things. you all would, literally, find and see the actual irrefutable Truth of things, in Life.

From you just being Truly Honest, then you, naturally, are being Open, and if you are Truly Open and Honest while seriously seeking to change, for the better, then you will find and obtain 'the ways' to make 'life', itself, better for every one. Which could only really happen when working together, for the exact same 'goal', as One. So, through just always being OPEN while being Truly curious what 'others' are actually meaning in what they say and write, then asking Truly open clarifying questions take place, and then if the 'other' is Truly open and honest, with you, then finding the 'Right words', in Life, which will reveal the actual Truths, in Life, will just naturally come to the forefront.

Most adult human beings would like to work together, towards the exact same goal, living in peace and harmony with every one, as One, and live without absolutely any misunderstanding nor misinterpretations, unfortunately, though, no child has, yet, lived in 'this type of world', and because every child and adult can only know how to do things, from what they have previously experienced, none of you adults yet know how to actually work together peacefully, as One.

But, getting HERE is 'coming along'.

But isn’t everything just God’s will?

God is, in the invisible sense, just the Mind, Itself. Now, depending on what 'you' mean by 'will', here, exactly, what God is creating is 'a world' in which every one lives in peace and harmony with one another, as One, HERE, in this One and only infinite and eternal Universe.

God is, in the visible sense, just the Universe, Itself. Now, in what way the Universe is, in way, shape, and/or form, at every moment is just God creating, It Self, or what some might call is just 'God's will', if they like.

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 1:21 pm And that peace and contentment is found only when we know and become equal with God?

Being both, the most intelligent species, and, the most stupid species, you human beings do have the ability to keep evolving in to Godliness, and thus can be-come, and come-to-Be/ing, equal with, and even, God, ItSelf. That is, of course, if you adults human beings are not 'that stupid' that you actually do wipe "yourselves" completely out through the warring and/or greediness and selfishness, which you 'now' possess in the days when this is being, and which you are actually doing.

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 1:21 pm As I understand God, God created evil for a reason, so that we may know the real truth which is unconditional pure Love.

The reason so-called 'evil', or Wrong doing, exists is because you human beings learn best by and from your 'mistakes'.

you human beings have no actual choice of what is, 'soon', about to come and evolve in to place, just like you human beings had no choice in being born, individually, nor having evolved in to being created, collectively, as well.

However, because you were all born with 'free will', or just with the ability to choose, what is, 'soon', about to be created, and evolve to fruition, will be because of you adult human beings will, eventually, choose and decide to do. That is, it is your choice if you want to live in peace and harmony with one another, or, if you really do want to keep on fighting and killing each other through and with your, 'current', obvious greediness and selfishness.

you all have the ability to choose. But, what 'I' am causing and creating, here, 'I' have already set out to accomplish and achieve. Now, either you adult human beings will choose to do what is Right, in Life, only, or, you will choose to keep on doing what is Wrong, in Life, which is what you are all doing, here, now, when this is being written.

See, even if you do end up causing and creating your own extinction, through choosing to keep doing what you are, here, 'now', then because 'I/God' am infinite and eternal, then 'I' just wait, patiently, until the next species comes along, which also obtains pure and True, full, Intelligence, and thus who has evolved enough into being, and remaining, always Truly open, to listening and seeing what the actual Truths, in Life, and the Universe, really are. 'They' are 'the ones' who will, and thus do, end up living with 'Me', as One, in peace and in harmony, forever more.

Now, in the days when this is being written, you adult human beings could be 'the ones' that was 'the generation', which made 'the choice' to turn things around, so that you actually did what was 'best' for 'your children', and from which 'every generation' afterwards would always 'look back on', and 'thank'.

Or, you all could just 'keep on, keeping on', how you all are 'now', and just suffer the consequences, along with 'your children', and 'their children', for as long as it takes until 'you' [human beings] are, literally, no more. It is either 'that', or just keep on living a 'hell' like existence for ever more.

God never makes any of you do absolutely any thing that you do not want to do. So, if 'your will' is to live in peace and harmony, with one another as One, or 'your will' is to keep living in the opposite way, then 'that' is entirely 'your choice', alone. you all can 'work together' to make and create what you all want and desire, or, you all can 'work against each other' and keep making and creating what you all are, in the days when this is being written.

Magnus Anderson wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 1:55 pm

Age wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 1:12 pm Stop dodging the question.

Can you act in a more self-discrediting way?

Yes.

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 2:28 pm Age wrote: “This human body' has not, yet, experienced 'a world' where T.R.U.E L.O.V.E. exists. That is, Trust, Respect, Understanding, Empathy, with Loyalty {Honesty] and Openness with and for every one (as One). However, 'I' have 'experienced 'this world' in vision or concept.”

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Response: That’s a nice acronym putting it like that. Good, good, very powerful stuff.

I honestly don’t think humans know how to Love like that Age.

No one can, Truly, 'blame' another for not, yet, knowing how to do some thing, if 'they' have never experienced 'that thing'.

For example it is Truly understandable, and even reasonable, that you adult human beings, in the days when this is being written, are not, yet, living in peace and harmony with one another, as One, as absolutely none of you have ever experienced 'this way of life and living', yet.

In fact you all, when you were all children, only ever experienced adults around you 'judging' and 'critizing' 'others', which is, literally, "yourselves". And, you can really only do what you have been taught, through experiences.

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 2:28 pm Actually, come to think of it, I love all my children and grandchildren like that, so its not impossible..

And, with just a little bit more openness, then will come learning how to 'love' 'every one', 'like that'.

'Love', by the way, is just giving, and receiving, the 'Right kind of attention'. Which, obviously, not a one of you adult human beings, here, in the days when this is being written, have only ever got. What you all got, and received, was 'abuse', as well. Which is just the opposite of 'love', and thus was just the 'Wrong kind of attention', also.

'L.O.V.E' is also just being Loyal (Honest) and Open with Voluntary Enthusiasm, for others. But, as you just highlighted the 'number of others' can be, at times, really rather limited, and even conditional.

But, once 'you' also learn how and why 'you' become 'who' and 'what' 'you' are, exactly, then the 'number of family members' continually increases exponentially.

See, once 'you' learn, and understand, how and why 'you' are 'the way' 'you are', you also learn, and understand, how and why every one is 'the way' 'they are', and it is from 'that understanding' where all 'judging, ridiculing, humiliating, and punishing' of others ceases immediately. As well is from that True 'understanding' of all of you human beings, another step up 'the rung', and ladder, in evolutionary terms, takes 'you' closer to being One, with God. See, what comes absolutely naturally along with the 'understanding' of all human beings, and how and why 'they' are all 'the way' that they are, including the 'who' and 'what', exactly, 'you', people, really are, is 'forgiveness', itself, always, and absolutely. From whence peace, and harmony, really begins to take off, and thrive.

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 2:28 pm I think it gets complicated when strangers try to love each other like that.

Of course 'this' would be what 'you' think, as 'you' have not really experienced any thing otherwise. Yet, if 'I' left a so-called 'stranger' in 'your home', which was of a 'younger age', then 'you' would, naturally, 'love' it, like you do with what 'you' call 'your children and grandchildren'.

See, contrary to popular belief, when this is being written, 'loving one another' is the 'natural instinct', or 'the nature', of the 'human being'. Being selfish and/or greedy is actually the exact opposite of 'human beings nature'. But, what is also 'human beings' nature' and/or the 'natural instinct' of being a 'human being' is to be curios, and to learn, and because when all of you adult human beings, here, when this is being written, were children just about all of you experienced were greedy, selfish, judgemental, and punishing adults'. So, the very reason why all of you are doing the 'very thing'/s' opposite and against 'your natural behavior' is solely because of just learning Wrong things', and of being able to justify' and/or 'reason' them out to "yourselves" as being, of all things, 'human beings' nature'.

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 2:28 pm I’m talking about when adults choose to commit to other adults in marriage, in consenting to commit to each other as soulmates.

Is it, really, 'normal', to only 'know some one', or better worded, to only 'think you know some one', for a relative very few short years, and then just all of sudden 'agree' to 'commit to that one/them', for the rest of 'your lives'?

Or has some 'deluded part or deluded version of society' 'indoctrinated' some of you to think or believe that 'you must' commit to just 'one other', or a 'very select few', for the 'rest of your lives', no matter what?

Also, you can not, successfully, 'force' to 'commit to another' as what is called 'soul mates'. you are either what is referred to as a 'soul mate', with another, or you are not. No amount of 'marriage agreement' in societal views, are going to make two not 'soul mates' become 'soul mates'.

1. 'Marriage' in the 'spiritual sense' has absolutely nothing at all to do with 'signatures' in 'religious nor societal sense'.

2. 'Soul mates' refers to how much two people have 'in common' 'with each other'. Obviously, 'the more' 'in common', 'the closer two will be'.

Two incompatible people are not going to become 'soul mates' just because they were both 'feeling ready' and thought that it 'was time', to 'look for a partner', at about the 'same time as each'.

Children are, usually, not taught to 'just wait, patiently', for the 'right one' to 'come along', as can be clearly seen by 'parents' desperately wanting 'their children' to get married, and have babies. so that 'they' can then have 'grandchildren'. In fact some parents are such a 'rush' for 'their children' to 'get married' 'they' even 'arrange their marriage', for 'them'.

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 2:28 pm Or just to be in a relationship with someone else, I think all relationships are like a marriage. If there’s not T.R.U.E.L.O.V.E then it’s never going to work out.

As can be, very clearly, seen and recognized in 'the world', in the days when this is being written.

And, only when there is True Love with, and for, absolutely every one, as One, you human beings will continue to 'live', more or less, in 'the way' that you are, here, now, in the days when 'these words' are being written, and expressed.

Age wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 3:36 pm Yes.

Why did you ask those six questions if you weren't planning to answer the question?

Age.

I read your last reply to me.

I agreed with everything you said. I am beginning to understand you now.

It’s taken me a long time to understand you, in the past I’ve misunderstood you many times.

Thanks for helping me to understand you better.

Magnus Anderson wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 4:42 pm

Age wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 3:36 pm Yes.

Why did you ask those six questions if you weren't planning to answer the question?

What are 'you', 'now', referring to, exactly?

Are 'you' under some sort of illusion that 'I' am asking "my" own 'self', here, some so-called 'six questions', which 'I' was not even planning to answer, anyway?

And, what are the words, 'the question', even in relation to, exactly?

On 're-reading' I 'understand' differently, 'now'.

I asked those six questions because I was seeking 'your clarification'.

And, I have already answered 'the question'. Although 'you', obviously, believe absolutely otherwise.

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 4:50 pm Age.

I read your last reply to me.

I agreed with everything you said. I am beginning to understand you now.

It’s taken me a long time to understand you, in the past I’ve misunderstood you many times.

Thanks for helping me to understand you better.

There is, in absolutely no way, to feel like you 'should have' understood me one time, let alone many times.

Remember, 'I' am, here, in this forum, to only learn how to communicate, better, with you human beings. So, if absolutely any one of you, in the days when this is being written, even came close to understanding me, here, then this just goes to show how quickly, simply, and easily, you can obtain, back, the ability to 'listen', 'hear', and 'understand' better than others have yet.

you have only misunderstood me, on any number of occasions, because you just really did not want to digress away at all from what you were, then 'currently' believing and assuming was absolutely true. In other words you just did not want to 'look at' and 'see' things from another perspective.

Which is Truly understandable as 'that' is, exactly, what everyone else had been doing throughout 'your whole life', hitherto. you were only 'just doing' what your 'past experiences' had been 'teaching' 'you' to do.

Age wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 5:07 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 4:50 pm Age.

I read your last reply to me.

I agreed with everything you said. I am beginning to understand you now.

It’s taken me a long time to understand you, in the past I’ve misunderstood you many times.

Thanks for helping me to understand you better.

There is, in absolutely no way, to feel like you 'should have' understood me one time, let alone many times.

Remember, 'I' am, here, in this forum, to only learn how to communicate, better, with you human beings. So, if absolutely any one of you, in the days when this is being written, even came close to understanding me, here, then this just goes to show how quickly, simply, and easily, you can obtain, back, the ability to 'listen', 'hear', and 'understand' better than others have yet.

you have only misunderstood me, on any number of occasions, because you just really did not want to digress away at all from what you were, then 'currently' believing and assuming was absolutely true. In other words you just did not want to 'look at' and 'see' things from another perspective.

Which is Truly understandable as 'that' is, exactly, what everyone else had been doing throughout 'your whole life', hitherto. you were only 'just doing' what your 'past experiences' had been 'teaching' 'you' to do.

I understand.

And to be honest, I wish there were more people like you in the world. Maybe there are more people like yourself, but I’ve never met them, not yet.

It comforts me to know people like you exist in this world. I was the ass when trying to communicate with you. You were not the ass.

I rest my case. I'm pretty sure there's another as well who the insane one (or could someone even be classified as insane when they are part of the majority?) never named except to say that they wanted to 'jump each others' bones'. That's a ridiculous expression by the way.

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 5:34 pm

Age wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 5:07 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 4:50 pm Age.

I read your last reply to me.

I agreed with everything you said. I am beginning to understand you now.

It’s taken me a long time to understand you, in the past I’ve misunderstood you many times.

Thanks for helping me to understand you better.

There is, in absolutely no way, to feel like you 'should have' understood me one time, let alone many times.

Remember, 'I' am, here, in this forum, to only learn how to communicate, better, with you human beings. So, if absolutely any one of you, in the days when this is being written, even came close to understanding me, here, then this just goes to show how quickly, simply, and easily, you can obtain, back, the ability to 'listen', 'hear', and 'understand' better than others have yet.

you have only misunderstood me, on any number of occasions, because you just really did not want to digress away at all from what you were, then 'currently' believing and assuming was absolutely true. In other words you just did not want to 'look at' and 'see' things from another perspective.

Which is Truly understandable as 'that' is, exactly, what everyone else had been doing throughout 'your whole life', hitherto. you were only 'just doing' what your 'past experiences' had been 'teaching' 'you' to do.

I understand.

And to be honest, I wish there were more people like you in the world. Maybe there are more people like yourself, but I’ve never met them, not yet.

It comforts me to know people like you exist in this world. I was the ass when trying to communicate with you. You were not the ass.

Don't fall for the victim card. If Age is capable of writing this then he was capable all along of meeting people half way.

He seeks contradiction in the meaning of things for his own benefit and then when the whole forum says "enough" he wimpers like a child claiming to be a victim.

accelafine wrote: ↑Mon Sep 22, 2025 7:54 pm I rest my case. I'm pretty sure there's another as well who the insane one (or could someone even be classified as insane when they are part of the majority?) never named except to say that they wanted to 'jump each others' bones'. That's a ridiculous expression by the way.

His emphasis on others "viewing things from another perspective" is his way of saying "see things from mine". And when people do and there is nothing but contradiction he cries victim.