Re: How AI, Robotics, and Clean Energy Will End Labor and Money – A Future Where Everything Is Free
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2025 1:29 pm
"as far back as eternity itself,..." typifies your phraseology making no sense whatever.seeds wrote: ↑Wed Sep 03, 2025 11:45 pmWhat do you mean by "...we agree thus far..."?Belinda wrote: ↑Tue Sep 02, 2025 6:05 pmDo you mean that I Am-ness includes besides the concept also the instinct such as how a newborn survives?seeds wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 10:05 pm
The "self" (the "I Am-ness") is never truly absent from any of the scenarios you mentioned above.
At the moment of birth, your unique and individual "self" (again, your "I Am-ness") is created, fixed, and established for all eternity, for it represents the locus and foundation of your eternal soul.
Sure, for the sake of maintaining the integrity and believability of this (dream-like) illusion that we call "objective" reality, the awareness of the self's own selfness/existence might get obscured (hidden) from time to time due to the reasons you mentioned,...
...but make no mistake about it, it is still there, waiting to be revealed to us once we awaken into the full consciousness of what our permanent "self"/"I Am-ness" truly is, post death.
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From ChatGPT:-
Life-Preserving Reflexes in Newborns & the Sense of Self
Diving reflex – instinctive breath-hold in water; body protects itself automatically → no self-awareness yet, purely survival.
Apnea response – oxygen-conserving pause in breathing → automatic regulation, not conscious.
Rooting reflex – turns head toward touch to feed → beginnings of body awareness (“touch means food”).
Sucking reflex – natural sucking when mouth roof touched → links body action to comfort & nourishment.
Swallowing reflex – safe feeding without choking → coordination but still unconscious.
Moro reflex – startle and cling → primitive “self vs. world” reaction to sudden change.
Grasp reflex – strong hand/foot grip → reinforces closeness, early sense of body contact.
Stepping reflex – walking motions when feet touch a surface → practice for agency, though not yet intentional.
Brown fat metabolism – heat-making without shivering → survival mechanism, not linked to awareness.
In short: most newborn reflexes are automatic survival programs. But some (like rooting, grasping, and startle) also form the earliest building blocks for a baby’s sense of self in relation to the world — awareness that stimulus happens to me, and my body can act in response.
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So we agree thus far.
Agree on what?
What I strongly suggest is that not only is the human brain created from the very fabric of God's personal being and is thus infused (saturated) with God's living essence (the essence of life itself),...
...but it (the human brain) has also been intentionally "designed" (programmed) to somehow summon-forth and manipulate that implicit life essence into becoming a replication (in the familial sense) of the Designer of the brain.
In other words,...
(and to address your ChatGPT list of instinctual survival features of a newborn)
...at the moment of birth, a brand new (and completely clueless) "I Am-ness"...
(again the "locus" of a new eternal soul - just like God's eternal soul)
...is literally awakened into existence, having not the slightest comprehension as to what the heck is going on, and therefore must be slowly introduced to the features and workings of this newly acquired "gift of life."
And as was proposed in some earlier posts, this new "I Am-ness" is not yet "fully-born" and must undergo a "second" and final birth...
(out of the "placental-like" encasement of the physical body [via death] and into a higher context of reality)
...in order to complete the full birthing process.
In which case, it stands to reason that this, again, "placental-like encasement" (the human brain and body) is going to be equipped with DNA based (software-like) "programming" that keeps the "I Am-ness" alive as it undergoes the long and arduous process of acclimating itself to this foreign glob of flesh (this temporary "vehicle") that it is going to use to "fit in" with (be a part of) the workings of this lower context of reality for the next, perhaps, 90? years.
And what I mean by undergoing the...
"...long and arduous process of acclimating itself to this foreign glob of flesh..."
...I am of course referring to not only getting used to sensing, grasping, and learning how to control the limb moving musculature of this temporary vehicle (as in learning how to walk, or to use its hands and fingers for grasping stuff and for making obscene gestures, etc.),...
...but also acclimating itself to the process of extending its five, inner-based senses,...
(which are wholly intrinsic to the "I Am-ness" itself)
...outward from the inner dimension of its own mind and into the inner dimension of God's mind (the universe) via the five, outer-based sensory "windows" (eyes, ears, skin, nose, and tongue) that come with the temporary vehicle/"placenta," and are discarded at the moment of death.
No, Belinda, where we differ is in the fact that you are too closed-minded to even consider the possibility that something roughly along the lines of Pierre Teilhard de Chardin's "Omega Point" may have been achieved in some other context of reality --> as far back as eternity itself,...,...
...and that consciousness (individual minds) had long ago (as in infinitely long ago) reached a point where creating a universe of galaxies and planets out of the living fabric of their very own being and then passing that same ability on to their own offspring,...
...has become a mere walk in the park.
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Life-Preserving Reflexes in Newborns & the Sense of Self
Diving reflex – instinctive breath-hold in water; body protects itself automatically → no self-awareness yet, purely survival.
Apnea response – oxygen-conserving pause in breathing → automatic regulation, not conscious.
Rooting reflex – turns head toward touch to feed → beginnings of body awareness (“touch means food”).
Sucking reflex – natural sucking when mouth roof touched → links body action to comfort & nourishment.
Swallowing reflex – safe feeding without choking → coordination but still unconscious.
Moro reflex – startle and cling → primitive “self vs. world” reaction to sudden change.
Grasp reflex – strong hand/foot grip → reinforces closeness, early sense of body contact.
Stepping reflex – walking motions when feet touch a surface → practice for agency, though not yet intentional.
Brown fat metabolism – heat-making without shivering → survival mechanism, not linked to awareness.
In short: most newborn reflexes are automatic survival programs. But some (like rooting, grasping, and startle) also form the earliest building blocks for a baby’s sense of self in relation to the world — awareness that stimulus happens to me, and my body can act in response.
. Anyway the responsibility is with the transmitter.