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FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:00 pm It's quite remarkable how many things suddenly become unforeseeable when certain people don't want them foreseen.

Flash resorts to the potent epigram! The ground rumbles underfoot!

Atla wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:12 pm To me, just about everything you write lacks substance. Again, I can't be bothered with that.

You simply can't be bothered, Atla. Remember: You are bored stiff and have no real interest in communicating ideas nor making your own ideas clear.

For a small fee I will agree to repair your intellectual radar which only picks up the most boring frequencies!

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:21 pm

Atla wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:12 pm To me, just about everything you write lacks substance. Again, I can't be bothered with that.

You simply can't be bothered, Atla. Remember: You are bored stiff and have no real interest in communicating ideas nor making your own ideas clear.

For a small fee I will agree to repair your intellectual radar which only picks up the most boring frequencies!

That's correct, I'm bored stiff usually and I just come to a philosophy forum for a little entertainment. And discussing politics is not my interest at all even then, usually.

Politics is not my area, and yet for example how many of you Trump-fans knew what I said would probably happen, that Europe would probably wake up and try to establish a joint military, to oppose Russia? How many of you understand that Trump has NPD? etc. You don't. Then what do you know if politics is your area?

phyllo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:14 pm

It's quite remarkable how many things suddenly become unforeseeable when certain people don't want them foreseen.

At least IC dropped the pretext that drugs are the issue.

You'll have to point out when it was that you think I did that.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:00 pm It's quite remarkable how many things suddenly become unforeseeable when certain people don't want them foreseen.

Nobody has a mirror into the future, Flash. Some people would like to think they do, but they don't.

On that note, though, the partisanship in the US is utterly breathtaking. Outsiders can barely make sense of it. The phenomenon of TDS seems very real, because, as with this thread, some people can't stop blaming Trump for everything from trade problems to cancer. There's really no limit to the insanity it seems, and no sense of what policies are being advocated on either side. For example, we have essentially this:

Obama: "We need to secure our borders, and protect American workers."

Democrats: "Hooray! Messiah has spoken, and all will be well!"

Trump: "We need to secure our borders, and protect American workers."

Democrats: "Boo! Hypocrite! Racist! This country is going to Hell!"

Well, I think it's safe to say that Trump's radical chaotic approach to reshaping government is producing a lot of potential volatility. That may not be a good thing in many ways. I mean, I don't mind him trying to make peace with Russia and Ukraine. I would love to see it. However, he seems to be going about many things in ways that could bite the West in the rear very badly.

Musk possibly creating counterintelligence disaster.

Valuable information may be lost forever in government program purges.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:55 pm

phyllo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:14 pm

It's quite remarkable how many things suddenly become unforeseeable when certain people don't want them foreseen.

At least IC dropped the pretext that drugs are the issue.

You'll have to point out when it was that you think I did that.

Right here :

It's not going to happen. Canada and Mexico both know they can't sustain a trade war with the US. The US is bound to win any such battle. Their only hope is to negotiate...which so far, they really haven't done, since the current arrangment favours them. And I think that's the real point: to compel renegotiation.

phyllo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 5:40 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:55 pm

phyllo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:14 pm At least IC dropped the pretext that drugs are the issue.

You'll have to point out when it was that you think I did that.

Right here :

It's not going to happen. Canada and Mexico both know they can't sustain a trade war with the US. The US is bound to win any such battle. Their only hope is to negotiate...which so far, they really haven't done, since the current arrangment favours them. And I think that's the real point: to compel renegotiation.

I can't see where I mentioned the drug issue at all there. Are you (clearly wrongly) imagining that "recompelling negotiation" couldn't mean "negotiating new border security"?

I can't see where I mentioned the drug issue at all there. Are you (clearly wrongly) imagining that "recompelling negotiation" couldn't mean "negotiating new border security"?

The previous phrase ... "since the current arrangment favours them" ... makes no sense in terms of border security and so it can't be referring to border security. Therefore, your subsequent phrase ... "the real point: to compel renegotiation" ... can't be about border security.

Mahe America great again!

Has any US president ever made America this much SMALLER in such a short time?

Latest news : Trump gives Mexico a one month pause on tariffs until April.

The country which is the source of the overwhelming majority of drugs and migrants.

Anybody wanna try that border security argument again?

Atla wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:41 pm That's correct, I'm bored stiff usually and I just come to a philosophy forum for a little entertainment. And discussing politics is not my interest at all even then, usually.

Politics is not my area, and yet for example how many of you Trump-fans knew what I said would probably happen, that Europe would probably wake up and try to establish a joint military, to oppose Russia? How many of you understand that Trump has NPD? etc. You don't. Then what do you know if politics is your area?

I am in no real sense a fan of Trump. But I am definitely no fan of the formerly reigning power- and culture-elite. And my hope is that— a gamble of course — that a new régime can change certain things, or possibly get things rolling in a different direction.

My interests are sociological and cultural. And a great deal of my own reading is in this area. Those are areas about which you likely care to know little.

If you knew more about why people’s ideas are changing, and what the intellectual sources of these shifts were, you might feel less psychological pain.

And as far as I am aware never once have you discussed things “philosophical”. You avoid saying anything much!

Personally, my larger interest is simply in understanding what is going on, and why.

That is when I have the free time. You know that I am a Tantric Sex instructor with a very busy schedule, right?

phyllo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 6:51 pm Latest news : Trump gives Mexico a one month pause on tariffs until April.

The country which is the source of the overwhelming majority of drugs and migrants.

Anybody wanna try that border security argument again?

It is all strategy, no? And power-politics.

What do you mean about border security?

phyllo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 6:29 pm

I can't see where I mentioned the drug issue at all there. Are you (clearly wrongly) imagining that "recompelling negotiation" couldn't mean "negotiating new border security"?

The previous phrase ... "since the current arrangment favours them" ... makes no sense in terms of border security and so it can't be referring to border security. Therefore, your subsequent phrase ... "the real point: to compel renegotiation" ... can't be about border security.

Why not? Borders are implicated in many matters...trade, drugs, illegal aliens...why would it be unthinkable that border security would implicate all three, and maybe more as well? Borders are about what gets into and out of your country. That's pretty general.

I am in no real sense a fan of Trump. But I am definitely no fan of the formerly reigning power- and culture-elite. And my hope is that— a gamble of course — that a new régime can change certain things, or possibly get things rolling in a different direction.

It's already being pushed in a different direction ... friendship with Russia and attacks on its traditional friends and allies.

Is that a good direction? A desirable direction?