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Re: Gaza Crisis: Are we morally wrong?
Posted: Sun May 04, 2025 10:27 am
by Martin Peter Clarke
Age wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 9:47 am
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 9:26 am
Age wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 9:09 am
Coming from 'the one' who actually believes, absolutely, that it comes from the most bellicose country in history. Talk about one with a 'grandiose' attitude, and obviously an extremely very narrowed view, and perspective.
In the eye of the beholder. Art is so superbly subjective isn't it? You see what you project. Observer effect. You create you're own reality through your own lens.
So, what 'we' have, here, is 'another one' who 'tries to' deflect, in order to deceive.
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 9:26 am
PS You're not anglophone are you? With your extremely very narrow view, and perspective.
What 'we' have, here, 'now' is 'another one' making claims and accusations 'about me'. So, let 'us' see if 'this one' could and will back up and support its claims and beliefs, here.
What do you believe that 'I' have an 'extremely very narrow view, and perspective' in relation to, exactly/
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 9:26 am
PPS Forgive me for only seeing your 'Pure,
grandiose, unadulterated, meaningless, drivel.' as pure,
grandiose, unadulterated, meaningless, drivel. When it is so much less. It brings out my cruelty.
Why are you seeking and wanting 'forgiveness', here, for, exactly?
My compulsion to cruelty in the face of your aesthetic.
Re: Gaza Crisis: Are we morally wrong?
Posted: Sun May 04, 2025 10:41 am
by Age
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 10:27 am
Age wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 9:47 am
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 9:26 am
In the eye of the beholder. Art is so superbly subjective isn't it? You see what you project. Observer effect. You create you're own reality through your own lens.
So, what 'we' have, here, is 'another one' who 'tries to' deflect, in order to deceive.
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 9:26 am
PS You're not anglophone are you? With your extremely very narrow view, and perspective.
What 'we' have, here, 'now' is 'another one' making claims and accusations 'about me'. So, let 'us' see if 'this one' could and will back up and support its claims and beliefs, here.
What do you believe that 'I' have an 'extremely very narrow view, and perspective' in relation to, exactly/
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 9:26 am
PPS Forgive me for only seeing your 'Pure,
grandiose, unadulterated, meaningless, drivel.' as pure,
grandiose, unadulterated, meaningless, drivel. When it is so much less. It brings out my cruelty.
Why are you seeking and wanting 'forgiveness', here, for, exactly?
My compulsion to cruelty in the face of your aesthetic.
'This one' actually believes, absolutely, that it comes from the most so-called 'bellicose country', in the whole of history, itself.
Re: Gaza Crisis: Are we morally wrong?
Posted: Sun May 04, 2025 11:57 am
by Martin Peter Clarke
Age wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 10:41 am
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 10:27 am
Age wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 9:47 am
So, what 'we' have, here, is 'another one' who 'tries to' deflect, in order to deceive.
What 'we' have, here, 'now' is 'another one' making claims and accusations 'about me'. So, let 'us' see if 'this one' could and will back up and support its claims and beliefs, here.
What do you believe that 'I' have an 'extremely very narrow view, and perspective' in relation to, exactly/
Why are you seeking and wanting 'forgiveness', here, for, exactly?
My compulsion to cruelty in the face of your aesthetic.
'This one' actually believes, absolutely, that it comes from the most so-called 'bellicose country', in the whole of history, itself.
Are trolls of this Earth?
Re: Gaza Crisis: Are we morally wrong?
Posted: Sun May 04, 2025 12:04 pm
by Age
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 11:57 am
Age wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 10:41 am
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 10:27 am
My compulsion to cruelty in the face of your aesthetic.
'This one' actually believes, absolutely, that it comes from the most so-called 'bellicose country', in the whole of history, itself.
Are trolls of this Earth?
Again, 'we' have 'another one' who when it can not back up and support its claim in any way whatsoever resorts to theses types of nonsensical remarks and comments.
Re: Gaza Crisis: Are we morally wrong?
Posted: Sun May 04, 2025 2:12 pm
by Martin Peter Clarke
Age wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 12:04 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 11:57 am
Age wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 10:41 am
'This one' actually believes, absolutely, that it comes from the most so-called 'bellicose country', in the whole of history, itself.
Are trolls of this Earth?
Again, 'we' have 'another one' who when it can not back up and support its claim in any way whatsoever resorts to theses types of nonsensical remarks and comments.
No 'it's' the 'same one', Silly!
Re: Gaza Crisis: Are we morally wrong?
Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 1:24 am
by Age
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 2:12 pm
Age wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 12:04 pm
Again, 'we' have 'another one' who when it can not back up and support its claim in any way whatsoever resorts to theses types of nonsensical remarks and comments.
No 'it's' the 'same one', Silly!
Obviously 'this one', again, did not comprehend and understand what I actually meant, here.
Which, once more, will all be 'my fault', alone, and completely.
Re: Gaza Crisis: Are we morally wrong?
Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 8:06 am
by Martin Peter Clarke
Age wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 1:24 am
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 2:12 pm
Age wrote: ↑Sun May 04, 2025 12:04 pm
Again, 'we' have 'another one' who when it can not back up and support its claim in any way whatsoever resorts to theses types of nonsensical remarks and comments.
No 'it's' the 'same one', Silly!
Obviously 'this one', again, did not comprehend and understand what I actually meant, here.
Which, once more, will all be 'my fault', alone, and completely.
There are more options.
Re: Gaza Crisis: Are we morally wrong?
Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 9:35 pm
by Age
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 8:06 am
Age wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 1:24 am
Obviously 'this one', again, did not comprehend and understand what I actually meant, here.
Which, once more, will all be 'my fault', alone, and completely.
There are more options.
Really?
What other, supposed, options could there be for 'mey words', here, not being comprehended and understood?
Re: Gaza Crisis: Are we morally wrong?
Posted: Mon May 05, 2025 10:22 pm
by Martin Peter Clarke
Hurrah! The trolls are back! Well the chief troll. Welcome back, oh chief troll, what you been up to? Under the bridge?
Re: Gaza Crisis: Are we morally wrong?
Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 9:37 am
by accelafine
When an actual genocide happens. Apparently the Yazidi aren't fashionable enough for wokies. No virtue-signalling points there and no Jews to blame
''The Islamic State killed Yazidi children in front of their mothers.
They would rape and starve the mothers for days, kill the children, and cook them.
The children’s flesh would be served with rice so that the mothers would unknowingly eat it.
Most of the women would commit suicide after they found out.
Everybody in the Muslim world knew what was happening, but there was not a single protest for the Yazidis.''
Re: Gaza Crisis: Are we morally wrong?
Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 3:11 pm
by Martin Peter Clarke
accelafine wrote: ↑Tue May 06, 2025 9:37 am
When an actual genocide happens. Apparently the Yazidi aren't fashionable enough for wokies. No virtue-signalling points there and no Jews to blame
''The Islamic State killed Yazidi children in front of their mothers.
They would rape and starve the mothers for days, kill the children, and cook them.
The children’s flesh would be served with rice so that the mothers would unknowingly eat it.
Most of the women would commit suicide after they found out.
Everybody in the Muslim world knew what was happening, but there was not a single protest for the Yazidis.''
I heard such propaganda during the invasion of Iraq under a totally false prospectus. The babies were Christian then. It's probably true, knowing that there are no limits to human depravity. The absurd invasion of Iraq and the staggeringly incompetent Anglo-American regime change, of course, created the Sunni minority Islamic State in response to then dominant Shia abuse. I have seen BBC film of an American armoured unit watching from their tank hulls while fellow Christian women, pleading for help in English, were massacred by Sunnis. The British Army ruined itself in Iraq and Afghanistan. To no win, no gain whatsoever. A dug in British squaddie, on the BBC again (I never watch any other news broadcaster), said, 'We came out here and kicked something up the arse, and it turned round and bit us'. The protest of a million people in London could not stop Blair. And 7 7. The catastrophe of the British Army stopped Cameron in Libya, thank God. But still cost us the Manchester Bombing of little girls. Don't start a fight that you can't finish. And in another man's back yard, like Palestine, Kashmir, you can never, ever finish.
Re: Gaza Crisis: Are we morally wrong?
Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 5:55 pm
by accelafine
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Tue May 06, 2025 3:11 pm
accelafine wrote: ↑Tue May 06, 2025 9:37 am
When an actual genocide happens. Apparently the Yazidi aren't fashionable enough for wokies. No virtue-signalling points there and no Jews to blame
''The Islamic State killed Yazidi children in front of their mothers.
They would rape and starve the mothers for days, kill the children, and cook them.
The children’s flesh would be served with rice so that the mothers would unknowingly eat it.
Most of the women would commit suicide after they found out.
Everybody in the Muslim world knew what was happening, but there was not a single protest for the Yazidis.''
I heard such propaganda during the invasion of Iraq under a totally false prospectus. The babies were Christian then. It's probably true, knowing that there are no limits to human depravity. The absurd invasion of Iraq and the staggeringly incompetent Anglo-American regime change, of course, created the Sunni minority Islamic State in response to then dominant Shia abuse. I have seen BBC film of an American armoured unit watching from their tank hulls while fellow Christian women, pleading for help in English, were massacred by Sunnis. The British Army ruined itself in Iraq and Afghanistan. To no win, no gain whatsoever. A dug in British squaddie, on the BBC again (I never watch any other news broadcaster), said, 'We came out here and kicked something up the arse, and it turned round and bit us'. The protest of a million people in London could not stop Blair. And 7 7. The catastrophe of the British Army stopped Cameron in Libya, thank God. But still cost us the Manchester Bombing of little girls. Don't start a fight that you can't finish. And in another man's back yard, like Palestine, Kashmir, you can never, ever finish.
It's not propaganda. Propaganda implies that it's not true. 'Propaganda' isn't needed when there's an actual genocide going on. If people are capable of putting women in cages and burning them alive in them and are so proud of it that they post it on the internet then they are capable of anything. No 'propaganda' needed. There's no reason to think it's not true.
The rise of radical islam is a direct result of the despicable Bush and his invasion of Iraq. America in its eternal wisdom decided to murder all the people who were keeping the lid on islamic fanaticism. A lot of people, Arab and otherwise, could see exactly what was going to happen. Gaddafi said it before he was murdered by a mob at the behest of a gleeful Hillary Clinton. Who could forget her elated 'we came, we saw, he died' comment? Gaddafi couldn't understand why Libya was being attacked when it was what he described as 'the cork in the bottle' of radical islam.
Re: Gaza Crisis: Are we morally wrong?
Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 8:14 pm
by Martin Peter Clarke
accelafine wrote: ↑Tue May 06, 2025 5:55 pm
Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Tue May 06, 2025 3:11 pm
accelafine wrote: ↑Tue May 06, 2025 9:37 am
When an actual genocide happens. Apparently the Yazidi aren't fashionable enough for wokies. No virtue-signalling points there and no Jews to blame
''The Islamic State killed Yazidi children in front of their mothers.
They would rape and starve the mothers for days, kill the children, and cook them.
The children’s flesh would be served with rice so that the mothers would unknowingly eat it.
Most of the women would commit suicide after they found out.
Everybody in the Muslim world knew what was happening, but there was not a single protest for the Yazidis.''
I heard such propaganda during the invasion of Iraq under a totally false prospectus. The babies were Christian then. It's probably true, knowing that there are no limits to human depravity. The absurd invasion of Iraq and the staggeringly incompetent Anglo-American regime change, of course, created the Sunni minority Islamic State in response to then dominant Shia abuse. I have seen BBC film of an American armoured unit watching from their tank hulls while fellow Christian women, pleading for help in English, were massacred by Sunnis. The British Army ruined itself in Iraq and Afghanistan. To no win, no gain whatsoever. A dug in British squaddie, on the BBC again (I never watch any other news broadcaster), said, 'We came out here and kicked something up the arse, and it turned round and bit us'. The protest of a million people in London could not stop Blair. And 7 7. The catastrophe of the British Army stopped Cameron in Libya, thank God. But still cost us the Manchester Bombing of little girls. Don't start a fight that you can't finish. And in another man's back yard, like Palestine, Kashmir, you can never, ever finish.
It's not propaganda. Propaganda implies that it's not true. 'Propaganda' isn't needed when there's an actual genocide going on. If people are capable of putting women in cages and burning them alive in them and are so proud of it that they post it on the internet then they are capable of anything. No 'propaganda' needed. There's no reason to think it's not true.
The rise of radical islam is a direct result of the despicable Bush and his invasion of Iraq. America in its eternal wisdom decided to murder all the people who were keeping the lid on islamic fanaticism. A lot of people, Arab and otherwise, could see exactly what was going to happen. Gaddafi said it before he was murdered by a mob at the behest of a gleeful Hillary Clinton. Who could forget her elated 'we came, we saw, he died' comment? Gaddafi couldn't understand why Libya was being attacked when it was what he described as 'the cork in the bottle' of radical islam.
We converge, accelafine.
Re: Gaza Crisis: Are we morally wrong?
Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 11:25 pm
by Age
Once again it makes a claim and once again when asked for it to back up and supports it's claim it provides absolutely nothing at all.
It is like it comes, here, making claims so that others will respond, so then it has some thing to play with, or in other words, 'it is like it comes, here, trolling for bites so that it can keep fighting with others'.
Re: Gaza Crisis: Are we morally wrong?
Posted: Wed May 07, 2025 12:42 am
by accelafine
So eye witnesses don't count. A court of law would beg to differ.
A young Yazidi woman, Fawzia Sido, has made shocking revelations of her horrific captivity under ISIS. She and other prisoners were forced to eat baby meat.
Sido was taken from her home when she was just 11 years old during the Islamic State’s attack on her hometown of Sinjar, Iraq in 2014.
While speaking to The Sun, Sido said that they were given a meal consisting rice and meat after days of starvation. The fighters did not inform them that the meat was from babies until they ate. “We were so hungry, we just ate,” she said, recalling the horrifying moment they realised the truth.
"They cooked rice and meat for us, and we ate despite the strange taste because we were so hungry. Afterwards, we all felt sick. Then, the IS fighters revealed their horrific act," Sido said.
Sido was one among the thousands of Yazidi women and children kidnapped by ISIS. Many of them were sold into slavery and forced into inhumane conditions. Her time in captivity ended after years of of violence and exploitation.
She was released from Gaza following a secret mission by Israel, the US and Iraq. According to Reuters, the rescue involved close cooperation between Israel's military and the US Embassy.