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Nick_A wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:20 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:14 pm 04053940-EBB8-4010-AC0A-C6D7F37CCE18.jpeg0B059873-3016-47A6-BC07-9E136C084717.jpeg9C5D2F0D-72AE-4833-895F-EAFEBB705E50.jpeg

Remember one thing Henry. The law is meaningless. It has become secondary to the secular imperative: "By Any Means Necessary". The left has an agenda and will sacrifice anything to further it. It is a mad obsession. Logic or the belief in blind justice has nothing to do with a mad obsession "By any Means Necessary" justifies any action taken. The idea itself opposes what is essential for liberty

If America is to survive, those who defend liberty must learn to stand up to those who believe that the rightness of their agenda justifies "By Any Means Necessary." Will the right have the guts to stand in defense of liberty? Our future may depend on the answer to this question

yeah, the era of the 4th box is here

Nick_A wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:20 pm It has become secondary to the secular imperative: "By Any Means Necessary".

I'm afraid this is true. I have met far too many Leftist ideologues who clearly believe -- and practice -- that any action that is offered in alleged service of "social justice" or "equality" or "anti-racism" becomes moral or justifiable automatically. As they say, "Punch a Nazi": you can always call your opposition "Nazis" or "oppressors," or "sexists," or "Republicans," or whatever, and then do any foul thing to them; and whatever you do will be sanctified by virtue of the very fact that it serves the interests of the Left.

Conscience is dead on the Left, it seems. At least on the far Left.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:32 pm

Nick_A wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:20 pm It has become secondary to the secular imperative: "By Any Means Necessary".

I'm afraid this is true. I have met far too many Leftist ideologues who clearly believe -- and practice -- that any action that is offered in alleged service of "social justice" or "equality" or "anti-racism" becomes moral or justifiable automatically. As they say, "Punch a Nazi": you can always call your opposition "Nazis" or "oppressors," or "sexists," or "Republicans," or whatever, and then do any foul thing to them; and whatever you do will be sanctified by virtue of the very fact that it serves the interests of the Left.

Conscience is dead on the Left, it seems. At least on the far Left.

next year: gonna be a lotta reapin' of what was sowed

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:32 pm Conscience is dead on the Left, it seems. At least on the far Left.

Do you think this is true for the right, or at least for the far right, as well?

Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:44 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:32 pm Conscience is dead on the Left, it seems. At least on the far Left.

Do you think this is true for the right, or at least for the far right, as well?

Intellectualism is dead. Idiocy smothered it to death.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:01 pm

Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:44 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:32 pm Conscience is dead on the Left, it seems. At least on the far Left.

Do you think this is true for the right, or at least for the far right, as well?

Intellectualism is dead. Idiocy smothered it to death.

It started with the glorification of mediocrity and continued until its present state.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:01 pm

Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:44 pm

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:32 pm Conscience is dead on the Left, it seems. At least on the far Left.

Do you think this is true for the right, or at least for the far right, as well?

Intellectualism is dead. Idiocy smothered it to death.

you're welcome

Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:44 pm Do you think this is true for the right, or at least for the far right, as well?

I suppose it might be. It's possible.

But I only hear Leftists talk about things like "The Far Right," or "The Alt-Right," or "Neo-Nazis." Strangely, I never seem to meet any of these odd birds. Nor do such people have any voice in politics right now, it seems; no party is representing them. If they exist at all, they are certainly very shy, very few, and very poorly represented anywhere.

It has to make you wonder if they really exist anymore. The Left sure seem to want to keep us in cringing or militant terror of them, as if any minute our streets are about to erupt with them. But I see no evidence of that, and no reason for fear...or even much concern, except in theory, if anything like them should suddenly appear.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:36 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:01 pm

Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:44 pm
Do you think this is true for the right, or at least for the far right, as well?

Intellectualism is dead. Idiocy smothered it to death.

you're welcome

Please explain. Why am I 'welcome'?

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:37 pm

Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:44 pm Do you think this is true for the right, or at least for the far right, as well?

I suppose it might be. It's possible.

But I only hear Leftists talk about things like "The Far Right," or "The Alt-Right," or "Neo-Nazis." Strangely, I never seem to meet any of these odd birds. Nor do such people have any voice in politics right now, it seems; no party is representing them. If they exist at all, they are certainly very shy, very few, and very poorly represented anywhere.

It has to make you wonder if they really exist anymore. The Left sure seem to want to keep us in cringing or militant terror of them, as if any minute our streets are about to erupt with them. But I see no evidence of that, and no reason for fear...or even much concern, except in theory, if anything like them should suddenly appear.

That's what happens when idiots use terms like 'left' and 'right'. They don't have a clue what they mean. And logically, if there is a 'far left' then there has to be a 'far right'. No? I would say the Republicans and Democrats are both 'cenrist' and probably align with each other in most things-- with a few major policy differences. This is similar to most modern democracies. As a matter of fact a lot of Trump's policies were what you would refer to as 'socialist', it's just that the way he spoke was targeted to appeal to the conservative side of the political spectrum. Wokies were too stupid and self-absorbed to see that, fixating instead on being 'offended-on-behalf-of' their imaginary friends. Wokism isn't extreme left, or even 'left'. It's essentially a religion--the idelogical equivalent in reverse of anti-choicers (and a lot more powerful at this time), and as fanatical as any neo-Nazi.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:32 pm

Nick_A wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:20 pm It has become secondary to the secular imperative: "By Any Means Necessary".

I'm afraid this is true. I have met far too many Leftist ideologues who clearly believe -- and practice -- that any action that is offered in alleged service of "social justice" or "equality" or "anti-racism" becomes moral or justifiable automatically. As they say, "Punch a Nazi": you can always call your opposition "Nazis" or "oppressors," or "sexists," or "Republicans," or whatever, and then do any foul thing to them; and whatever you do will be sanctified by virtue of the very fact that it serves the interests of the Left.

Conscience is dead on the Left, it seems. At least on the far Left.

Conscience can only refer to people believing in liberty. It just gets in the way of those believing in statist slavery.

Why else do the agenda driven justify the destruction of private property, The indoctrination of the young into becoming mindless "snowflakes" serving the agenda, and openly corrupting the election process necessary to sustain freedom? It only serves the purpose of the agenda by "any means necessary."

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:37 pm

Lacewing wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:44 pm Do you think this is true for the right, or at least for the far right, as well?

I suppose it might be. It's possible.

But I only hear...

Yes. You only hear whatever you hear for whatever reasons that apply to you.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:37 pmStrangely, I never seem to meet...

Yes. That is strange. You see one side, and not the other. You see imbalance. You identify "the guilty" as being in one particular direction.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:37 pm It has to make you wonder if they really exist anymore. The Left sure seem to want to keep us in cringing or militant terror of them, as if any minute our streets are about to erupt with them. But I see no evidence of that, and no reason for fear...or even much concern, except in theory, if anything like them should suddenly appear.

What I wonder is how you come up with and perpetuate this stuff against better and more balanced logic and reason? Why do you spin stories in one direction rather than looking all around?

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:05 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:36 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:01 pm

Intellectualism is dead. Idiocy smothered it to death.

you're welcome

Please explain. Why am I 'welcome'?

cuz I helped smother intellectualism and I thought you were bein' thankful...

You only hear whatever you hear for whatever reasons that apply to you.

like when I hear the birdies chirp kill commies?

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:45 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:05 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:36 pm

you're welcome

Please explain. Why am I 'welcome'?

cuz I helped smother intellectualism and I thought you were bein' thankful...

I can understand why Americans believe that thinking is something to be derided and stamped out. It explains their whole society.

''Intellectualism refers to related mental perspectives that emphasise the use, the development, and the exercise of the intellect; and also identifies the life of the mind of the intellectual person. In the field of philosophy, “intellectualism” is synonymous with rationalism, knowledge derived from reason.''