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Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:44 pm Sure, except they used store bought items.

What's your point? That people live in societies, and use goods that other people make? That's the least impressive sort of discovery you could make. We all know that.

But this is nothing to the question of freedom.

Those who have the opportunity to use the goods that others make have GREATER freedom than those who have no such options. Freedom is not being diminished by this sort of sociability; it's being INCREASED.

So what's the basis on which you now think modern people are somehow not "free"? They're freer than at any time in history. They have more goods and services, more disposable income, more options, longer and healthier lifespans, and greater leisure time than at any time, in any place, in history thus far. By far.

That's undeniable. So what are you complaining about?

Nick_A wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:14 pm Men killng men is normal. Women serve a more important purpose for men so there is no reason to kill them.

We're past that point, Nick. It's evident that women kill, and in some respects, do more than men do. It's just that most of the people they kill, at least at present, are their own children.

Nick_A wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:14 pm Remember that men are considered the most intelligent species on earth. Men killng men is normal. Women serve a more important purpose for men so there is no reason to kill them. An intelligent decision based on value

Point to you.

Regards
DL

as long as he sets the terms: you're all fightin' a battle you can't win, guys

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:24 pm as long as he sets the terms: you're all fightin' a battle you can't win, guys

You debate to feed your ego with a win do you?

I debate to lose more than win. Can you dither out why?

Regards
DL

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:17 pm

Nick_A wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:14 pm Men killng men is normal. Women serve a more important purpose for men so there is no reason to kill them.

We're past that point, Nick. It's evident that women kill, and in some respects, do more than men do. It's just that most of the people they kill, at least at present, are their own children.

It is the right of Man to kill other men and the right of women to kill babies. It is foolish for men to kill women who serve a more important part of social progress.

If that's the case: quit movin' the goal posts.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:42 pm If that's the case: quit movin' the goal posts.

What? Where?

It is likely that you just can't keep up, but I am willing to see what you only allude to, like a petulant child who debates for the wrong reasons.

I see though that you could not dither out my reason for debating to lose.

That would take a bit of thought.

Rgerads
DL

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:53 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:42 pm If that's the case: quit movin' the goal posts.

What? Where?

It is likely that you just can't keep up, but I am willing to see what you only allude to, like a petulant child who debates for the wrong reasons.

I see though that you could not dither out my reason for debating to lose.

That would take a bit of thought.

Rgerads
DL

Do this: define freedom.

Be simple and direct and unambiguous.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:58 pm

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:53 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:42 pm If that's the case: quit movin' the goal posts.

What? Where?

It is likely that you just can't keep up, but I am willing to see what you only allude to, like a petulant child who debates for the wrong reasons.

I see though that you could not dither out my reason for debating to lose.

That would take a bit of thought.

Rgerads
DL

Do this: define freedom.

Be simple and direct and unambiguous.

Nothing to show where I move the goalposts. Ok.

Thanks for retracting your lie. Oh wait -----

Do you not have a dictionary?

free·dom
noun: freedom
the power or right to act, speak, or think as one wants without hindrance or restraint.

Regards
DL

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:29 pm
free·dom
noun: freedom
the power or right to act, speak, or think as one wants without hindrance or restraint.

Regards
DL

Ain't nuthin' about shoe-makin' in that.

If that's the definition you're goin' with then you've been refuted by pretty much everyone.

'nuff said, party over

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:37 pm

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:29 pm
free·dom
noun: freedom
the power or right to act, speak, or think as one wants without hindrance or restraint.

Regards
DL

Ain't nuthin' about shoe-makin' in that.

If that's the definition you're goin' with then you've been refuted by pretty much everyone.

'nuff said, party over

Thanks.

You have shown your low I.Q.

Regards
DL

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:53 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:37 pm

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:29 pm
free·dom
noun: freedom
the power or right to act, speak, or think as one wants without hindrance or restraint.

Regards
DL

Ain't nuthin' about shoe-makin' in that.

If that's the definition you're goin' with then you've been refuted by pretty much everyone.

'nuff said, party over

Thanks.

You have shown your low I.Q.

Regards
DL

I'm dumb, you're refuted (by yourself, in prior posts): we all got our crosses.

So, do we have consensus on the following?

Only some men like to kill men (e.g., professional soldiers and psychopaths).

War is Hell.

Everyone is dependent on others for survival.

The killing is done within a societal or tribal context.

Greatest I am wrote: ↑Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:04 pm I cannot make shoes ...

Wear sandals, grow a beard and be a guru.