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Gary Childress wrote:

bobevenson wrote:

Gary Childress wrote:What if your policies tank the economy?

Free-market capitalism is incapable of tanking the economy; only socialist-oriented governments can do that.

What is your proof of this claim?

I'm a prophet, my friend, and I'll let it go at that.

bobevenson wrote:

Gary Childress wrote:So are you advocating the collection of taxes on penalty of imprisonment?

No, you just take their fucking property, sell it, subtract the taxes, and pay the ex-property owner the difference.

But you would have to take the property at threat of force, wouldn't you?

bobevenson wrote:

Gary Childress wrote:

bobevenson wrote:Free-market capitalism is incapable of tanking the economy; only socialist-oriented governments can do that.

What is your proof of this claim?

I'm a prophet, my friend, and I'll let it go at that.

What do "prophets" know about economics?

bobevenson wrote:How does a bank take back property, huh?

By calling the police if you refuse their attempt at repossession.

Gary Childress wrote:

bobevenson wrote:How does a bank take back property, huh?

By calling the police if you refuse their attempt at repossession.

Well, have you answered your own question? It's the same way the government currently collects past-due real estate taxes.

bobevenson wrote:

Gary Childress wrote:

bobevenson wrote:How does a bank take back property, huh?

By calling the police if you refuse their attempt at repossession.

Well, have you answered your own question? It's the same way the government currently collects past-due real estate taxes.

So what's wrong with the way the government currently operates, then? If the AEP is going to change nothing, then what is the point?

What is so "despotic" about taxation if the "divinely inspired" AEP is going to do the same thing?

bobevenson wrote:

FlashDangerpants wrote:

bobevenson wrote:Any tendency toward inflation would be controlled through taxation to reduce the money supply.

higher taxes would provoke employees to demand higher wages, and employers would respond with higher prices, and you would have to respond with still higher taxes. Which is a spiral.

You give yourself only one tool to achieve a lot of policy objectives with this plan. Failure is built in.

Under the AEP, employers can hire whomever they want and pay whatever wages they want.

Irrelevant. You have outlined a plan to fight inflation by putting up the cost of living. That's self inflicted stupidity.

Gary Childress wrote: So what's wrong with the way the government currently operates, then? If the AEP is going to change nothing, then what is the point?

Under the AEP, it's not just real estate that's taxed, everything is taxed!

bobevenson wrote:

Gary Childress wrote: So what's wrong with the way the government currently operates, then? If the AEP is going to change nothing, then what is the point?

Under the AEP, it's not just real estate that's taxed, everything is taxed!

And the AEP is different because...?

bobevenson wrote:...
Under the AEP, only banks would be able to create money backed by certificates of property value. ...

Are you going to base these 'certificates of property value' on current estimates? If so then FDP is correct to say that your fantasy AEP is going to allow banks to print trillions of dollars thereby causing hyperinflation and collapsing the US economy.

Also can you answer his question of why we should own anything if we are effectively renting it from your AEP?

(Oh! I know, it's because you are the anti-baptist, false prophet for 'Satan' and the 'Beast'(as evidenced by your name) and wish to give our world to them and a good start would be to crash the economy and a prophezised one would be to require us all to have a mark if we wish to buy and sell anything which would be the most efficient and probably the only way you could keep track of property if you wish to implement your tax-system, the plot thickens.)

Gary Childress wrote:What do "prophets" know about economics?

I am Bob the Baptist, the new guru, the modern messiah, the wizard of Ouzo, and a divinely inspired prophet of all things spiritual, political and economic.

bobevenson wrote:I am Bob the Baptist, the new guru, the modern messiah, the wizard of Ouzo, and a divinely inspired prophet of all things spiritual, political and economic.

Apparently divine inspiration sucks when it comes to Economics and Politics then.

By-the-by, with respect to this 'divinity' of yours, is this an agnostic 'divinity' or an absolute fools 'divinity'?

bobevenson wrote:Theist, agnostic, atheist. As Bob the Baptist, I can tell you that the first and third are fools, and absolute fools at that.

bobevenson wrote:Anybody who isn't an agnostic is a fool.

Gary Childress wrote:

bobevenson wrote:

Gary Childress wrote: So what's wrong with the way the government currently operates, then? If the AEP is going to change nothing, then what is the point?

Under the AEP, it's not just real estate that's taxed, everything is taxed!

And the AEP is different because...?

The AEP is different because everything is taxed, regardless of who owns it or what it's used for.