Philosophy Now Forum

henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:24 pm

Belinda wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:00 pm Neuro-scientists mostly believe that brain (e.g. neurons and synapses) and mind(e.g. beliefs and desires ) are two aspects of the same substance.

Some do indeed believe that; some don't. Would you like a listing of prominent neuro-science folk who don't? I can give you one. I can even give you quotes from those people.

So, no, not mostly.

Yes mostly. Nobody else counts. Mind is a state of matter. If 99% of all known neuroscientists believe otherwise, then that's a private, un-transferable, subjective matter of faith; incoherent, unwarranted, unjustified, untrue belief. It has no epistemological weight whatsoever. Zero. Null.

Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 8:49 am

henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:24 pm

Belinda wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:00 pm Neuro-scientists mostly believe that brain (e.g. neurons and synapses) and mind(e.g. beliefs and desires ) are two aspects of the same substance.

Some do indeed believe that; some don't. Would you like a listing of prominent neuro-science folk who don't? I can give you one. I can even give you quotes from those people.

So, no, not mostly.

Yes mostly. Nobody else counts. Mind is a state of matter. If 99% of all known neuroscientists believe otherwise, then that's a private, un-transferable, subjective matter of faith; .

U C the crazy thing about this is, that I agree with Martin Peter Clarke the 3rd..(*super nob)

Henry, or sum 1 please quote me to get him back on the atto ship!

PS. Peter, NO philosopher CUTS OFF INFORMATION.

What?

Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 11:58 am What?

The racist schizophrenic Australian dipsomaniac who likes to LARP as an Englishman to complain about brown people not allowing him to fly flags would like you to know that he is bothered by you putting him on your ignore list and that it makes him think less of you as a philosopher.

Was that to me? Sorry, I can't hear.

¿que?

Belinda wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:36 pm

viewtopic.php?t=44270

attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 11:39 am

Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 8:49 am

henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:24 pm
Some do indeed believe that; some don't. Would you like a listing of prominent neuro-science folk who don't? I can give you one. I can even give you quotes from those people.

So, no, not mostly.

Yes mostly. Nobody else counts. Mind is a state of matter. If 99% of all known neuroscientists believe otherwise, then that's a private, un-transferable, subjective matter of faith; .

U C the crazy thing about this is, that I agree with Martin Peter Clarke the 3rd..(*super nob)

Henry, or sum 1 *please quote me to get him back on the atto ship!

PS. Peter, NO philosopher CUTS OFF INFORMATION.

*

henry quirk wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:15 pm

attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 11:39 am

Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 8:49 am
Yes mostly. Nobody else counts. Mind is a state of matter. If 99% of all known neuroscientists believe otherwise, then that's a private, un-transferable, subjective matter of faith; .

U C the crazy thing about this is, that I agree with Martin Peter Clarke the 3rd..(*super nob)

Henry, or sum 1 *please quote me to get him back on the atto ship!

PS. Peter, NO philosopher CUTS OFF INFORMATION.

*

A momentary lapse of unreason. Don't worry. It will pass. You two should get a room. If you have any information atto fish pi, AFP, I'm sure someone else more tolerant than I of noise will post the signal. Otherwise it's not worth tuning in to the white noise of stellar hydrogen. And funnily enough I was known as Nob. And I am the 1st and last, the alpha and the omega, as far as I'm aware.

Stefanik (Republican) Goes Completely Nuclear On Hochul (Democrat) Over Crimes Committed By Illegal Immigrants
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J12Qok8iDIU

Pay attention to Stefanik (Republican) to hear some actual Rule and Spirit of Law. Her time was short and she appears to be furious over the momentum of lies and stupidity that so easily gains traction.

The Party is talking about Hocuel (Democrat) running for president. Stranger things have happened, such as the Biden presidency. (That was a terrible example to set for the little children).

In the video she wants to keep referencing her ineffectual policy (ineffectual for the welfare of citizens) like it means a hill of beans. She ignores the results of that policy which is actually designed to fail, other than to acknowledge with the word horrific.

Hey, how about those tariffs. In the USA inflation is down and the economy is up. It’s Trump’s fault the loud-mouthed, mucho broadcast time experts were wrong, but everyone knows facts have little to do with criticisms of Trump.

Trump is simply an obstacle to Progressive, Leftist, Democrat power, and power is the prime directive for The Democrats Who Hate America. The welfare of the people is just words to The Party, as Hocuel (Democrat) demonstrates in the particular during her career, and in the video.

The ostensible cover for the nefarious Party is feel-good platitudes, which Hocuel (Democrat) makes as apparent as the time-honored tradition of Opposite Naming (ON).

Opposite Naming is headlines for the masses, one of the most hideous examples being The Inflation Reduction Act (which was designed to increase inflation during the Biden Administration).

The question is, Why? That is the question because only a fool would believe in the good intentions of Democrats and the deep state they control.

To be generous of spirit ... Maybe the answer isn’t Evil.

After watching the Governor of New York, the answer just might be Stupidity, as in ignorance of cause and effect caused by lust for power, by any means necessary. Stupidity plus power. Marvelous. When followed as designed the Constitution can slip Stupidity punches, which is why The Democrat Party that Hates America corrupts the constitution at every opportunity … such saying that Trump doesn’t have the authority to protect Big City Folks from the jackals, because in their lust for power The Democrats That Hate America will not.

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 7:50 am

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 5:25 pm

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 4:13 pmIt's what people with a sense of humour call joke.

You don't need to be snarky. It was a serious question, and one that invited your correction. (See, there's the tone problem, again.)

Well, since you believe tone can be hard to interpret sometimes, you allow the possibility that this is one of those occasions. How do you know I was being snarky?

Easy. You were ad hominem.

You are as much a Hindu as I am an eliminativist. That's the joke.

Oh. To paraphrase you, "people with a sense of humour" expect jokes to be amusing or witty, rather than merely gratutious. Would that reply be snarky or not?

So you don't assert that physics is going to be the answer to things like mind, morals, etc? Instead, you merely plead that you have no idea what physics can or cannot do eventually, and hence, that you have no stable concept in your mind of what "physics" even entails as a discipline?

Feel free to correct the impression you're leaving.

Walker wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 3:24 pmTrump is simply an obstacle to Progressive, Leftist, Democrat power, …

Trump is simply an obstacle to civilisation. He is a throwback to a supposedly bygone age of bestial depravity. He is an affront to our shared humanity.

What a fine false dichotomy.

Belinda wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 5:42 pm N ever mind IC I didn't get the joke either.

Notice!

I am developing an extensive chapter for my 22 Week Internet Course specifically for some of the most humorless philosophers walking and squawking on the planet today.

First, we will start with typical “Why did the chicken cross the road” jokes (a 4-6 year-old humor primer). But don’t fret! I plan to include a whole section on Yiddish humor and even a section on (little known) Eskimo jokes.

You will NOT want to miss it!

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 11:04 pm

Belinda wrote: ↑Thu Jun 12, 2025 5:42 pm N ever mind IC I didn't get the joke either.

Notice!

I am developing an extensive chapter for my 22 Week Internet Course specifically for some of the most humorless philosophers walking and squawking on the planet today.

First, we will start with typical “Why did the chicken cross the road” jokes (a 4-6 year-old humor primer). But don’t fret! I plan to include a whole section on Yiddish humor and even a section on (little known) Eskimo jokes.

You will NOT want to miss it!