The Antichrist

[SpheresOfBalance]

AS,
Why bother discussing Nietzsche with someone who has an opinion about something they've not actually read? Especially when they re-parrot nonsense about Hitler being the only one who understood him.

The voice of wisdom

Not quite! With respect to her bitter adversarial wording, directed at me.

[chaz wyman]

But first forget the belief that I shall not listen because it's you, and instead understand that I shall certainly listen because it's you, and I ask this question most seriously, do not look for anything but face value.

If one believes they have cancer, and fears going to the doctor, because they don't trust them, because it's substandard, because it's almost free and they want to employ the Gerson Therapy, I recently purchased Charlotte Gerson's book, "Healing the Gerson Way" is it advisable to exercise or conserve ones strength? I'm beginning to believe (denial) that your answer, I'm in dire need of, so in all seriousness, what do you suggest? For fear, as I mentioned above, I've thus far neglected to get a colonoscopy, which is the area in question, and now I have what seems to be a growth on a testis, and ejaculate volume has substantially decreased, so I'm afraid the entire area may be compromised.[/color]

I'm sure Gerson has cured thousands of people who THINK they have cancer. But that is not as hard as curing people who actually have it.
If you are serious and have a growth on your nut - then see a bloody doctor.
If you want to die slowly of prostate, testicle, or colon cancer then take the gentle Gerson treatment.

[SpheresOfBalance]

But first forget the belief that I shall not listen because it's you, and instead understand that I shall certainly listen because it's you, and I ask this question most seriously, do not look for anything but face value.

If one believes they have cancer, and fears going to the doctor, because they don't trust them, because it's substandard, because it's almost free and they want to employ the Gerson Therapy, I recently purchased Charlotte Gerson's book, "Healing the Gerson Way" is it advisable to exercise or conserve ones strength? I'm beginning to believe (denial) that your answer, I'm in dire need of, so in all seriousness, what do you suggest? For fear, as I mentioned above, I've thus far neglected to get a colonoscopy, which is the area in question, and now I have what seems to be a growth on a testis, and ejaculate volume has substantially decreased, so I'm afraid the entire area may be compromised.[/color]

I'm sure Gerson has cured thousands of people who THINK they have cancer. But that is not as hard as curing people who actually have it.
If you are serious and have a growth on your nut - then see a bloody doctor.
If you want to die slowly of prostate, testicle, or colon cancer then take the gentle Gerson treatment.

I assure you I'm serious, if you wonder why I'm talking to you about it, It's because I'm a hermit of sorts and have lived alone for 2.5 years, I have no real friends, I usually only talk on the phone, usually daily with my wife and with you people here since Sept of 2011, other than that the only contact with people I have is when I go to the grocery store or barber. And while you and I argue quite a bit, if there's one thing i believe I know about you, it's that you are honest, as to your beliefs. But you haven't answered my question, which is: "Is it more advisable to routinely exercise or take it easy and conserve energy?"

As far as Gerson Therapy goes, apparently you know absolutely nothing about it. But that's OK because I do!

[SpheresOfBalance]

AS,
Why bother discussing Nietzsche with someone who has an opinion about something they've not actually read? Especially when they re-parrot nonsense about Hitler being the only one who understood him.

I hear what you are saying...but all I can liken it to is how you waste your breath talking to Bob. Maybe I am hoping for an understanding no matter how minute?

Not only am I more astute than BobEee, but apparently I'm more astute than you. So then, how could I possibly care for you? If you can't answer that, then that my dear, is in fact the difference between us.

[Arising_uk]

Not quite! With respect to her bitter adversarial wording, directed at me.

When you say "her" you mean AS? As she is definitely a she.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Not quite! With respect to her bitter adversarial wording, directed at me.

When you say "her" you mean AS? As she is definitely a she.

No, YOU!!! You are either a "She" physically or psychologically, take your pick! Can you say closet queen?

[Arising_uk]

No, YOU!!! You are either a "She" physically or psychologically, take your pick! Can you say closet queen?

I can, can you say paranoid misogynist, 'a she ...psychologically'.

But I was talking to AS you egotistical loon, 'Spheres of Balance' my arse!

[SpheresOfBalance]

No, YOU!!! You are either a "She" physically or psychologically, take your pick! Can you say closet queen?

I can, can you say paranoid misogynist, 'a she ...psychologically'.

But I was talking to AS you egotistical loon, 'Spheres of Balance' my arse!

Arising UK, or more appropriately, Descending (U)nwittingly (K)nowledgeless, It doesn't matter who you're talking to, when you refer to me, you circular reference of confusion filled with dictionary fear, fool; keep your lips off my person, and go about your deluded way!

P.S. You're always talking to yourself, idiot, Spheres Of Balance never ever had anything to do with me or my person you presumptuous fool, again showing your ass!!!

[chaz wyman]

But first forget the belief that I shall not listen because it's you, and instead understand that I shall certainly listen because it's you, and I ask this question most seriously, do not look for anything but face value.

If one believes they have cancer, and fears going to the doctor, because they don't trust them, because it's substandard, because it's almost free and they want to employ the Gerson Therapy, I recently purchased Charlotte Gerson's book, "Healing the Gerson Way" is it advisable to exercise or conserve ones strength? I'm beginning to believe (denial) that your answer, I'm in dire need of, so in all seriousness, what do you suggest? For fear, as I mentioned above, I've thus far neglected to get a colonoscopy, which is the area in question, and now I have what seems to be a growth on a testis, and ejaculate volume has substantially decreased, so I'm afraid the entire area may be compromised.[/color]

I'm sure Gerson has cured thousands of people who THINK they have cancer. But that is not as hard as curing people who actually have it.
If you are serious and have a growth on your nut - then see a bloody doctor.
If you want to die slowly of prostate, testicle, or colon cancer then take the gentle Gerson treatment.

I assure you I'm serious, if you wonder why I'm talking to you about it, It's because I'm a hermit of sorts and have lived alone for 2.5 years, I have no real friends, I usually only talk on the phone, usually daily with my wife and with you people here since Sept of 2011, other than that the only contact with people I have is when I go to the grocery store or barber. And while you and I argue quite a bit, if there's one thing i believe I know about you, it's that you are honest, as to your beliefs. But you haven't answered my question, which is: "Is it more advisable to routinely exercise or take it easy and conserve energy?"

As far as Gerson Therapy goes, apparently you know absolutely nothing about it. But that's OK because I do!

A predictable response.
You being a loner is not a surprise to me. You are in danger of building your own world a loosing a sense of proportion.
A book won't cure you if you have cancer, and it won't tell you if you have cancer in the fist place. So get off your fat butt and see a fucking doctor. If you want to be an idiot and follow some moronic QUACK then that is up to you. But you are better off knowing whether or not you have cancer.

As for your question; ""Is it more advisable to routinely exercise or take it easy and conserve energy?" - read your dumb book, because any advice I give you will be rejected - another symptom of a loner.
My advice on cancer and exercise - cancers don't give a rat's arse about exercise one way or the other - they grow and grow until you die.

[SpheresOfBalance]

But first forget the belief that I shall not listen because it's you, and instead understand that I shall certainly listen because it's you, and I ask this question most seriously, do not look for anything but face value.

If one believes they have cancer, and fears going to the doctor, because they don't trust them, because it's substandard, because it's almost free and they want to employ the Gerson Therapy, I recently purchased Charlotte Gerson's book, "Healing the Gerson Way" is it advisable to exercise or conserve ones strength? I'm beginning to believe (denial) that your answer, I'm in dire need of, so in all seriousness, what do you suggest? For fear, as I mentioned above, I've thus far neglected to get a colonoscopy, which is the area in question, and now I have what seems to be a growth on a testis, and ejaculate volume has substantially decreased, so I'm afraid the entire area may be compromised.[/color]

I'm sure Gerson has cured thousands of people who THINK they have cancer. But that is not as hard as curing people who actually have it.
If you are serious and have a growth on your nut - then see a bloody doctor.
If you want to die slowly of prostate, testicle, or colon cancer then take the gentle Gerson treatment.

I assure you I'm serious, if you wonder why I'm talking to you about it, It's because I'm a hermit of sorts and have lived alone for 2.5 years, I have no real friends, I usually only talk on the phone, usually daily with my wife and with you people here since Sept of 2011, other than that the only contact with people I have is when I go to the grocery store or barber. And while you and I argue quite a bit, if there's one thing i believe I know about you, it's that you are honest, as to your beliefs. But you haven't answered my question, which is: "Is it more advisable to routinely exercise or take it easy and conserve energy?"

As far as Gerson Therapy goes, apparently you know absolutely nothing about it. But that's OK because I do!

A predictable response.
You being a loner is not a surprise to me. You are in danger of building your own world a loosing a sense of proportion.
A book won't cure you if you have cancer, and it won't tell you if you have cancer in the fist place. So get off your fat butt and see a fucking doctor. If you want to be an idiot and follow some moronic QUACK then that is up to you. But you are better off knowing whether or not you have cancer.

As for your question; ""Is it more advisable to routinely exercise or take it easy and conserve energy?" - read your dumb book, because any advice I give you will be rejected - another symptom of a loner.
My advice on cancer and exercise - cancers don't give a rat's arse about exercise one way or the other - they grow and grow until you die.

Look, maybe you and I have been enemies for far to long I don't know, but I'm not against you just because it's you, on this particular subject, for sure.

More specifically, what I mean with regard to exercise is that when you do, you increase blood flow, which increases both nutrients and O2 to the surrounding cells, which would be good, but then again it could also lead to systemic spreading (metastasizing), which is why I asked, thinking you may know. I guess I should of elaborated, but I tend sometimes to assume that another is aware of a question's or statement's implications; all the dynamics involved.

Thanks for seemingly rising above our pettiness, The only reason I brought it up today is because I'm finally experiencing some numbness in the areas below the site, i.e., my legs, which has alarmed me a bit, trust me I'll be going in to the Medical Center tomorrow, but I'll not let them butcher, radiate or fill me full of radioactive isotopes. I may go so far as to allow them to remove the one gonad, but that's about it. Actually I'm hoping it's a Varicocele, and the other symptoms are just coincidence.

But for the record, the Gerson Therapy has noting to do with quackery, you've been misinformed, I've been studying it for several years now, just in case I ever had to face it. It makes perfect sense that I've seen via other sources and it's even been embraced by the Cancer Treatment Centers of America as a holistic approach, in addition to the old standard hack'em, radiate'em and nuke'em mentailty, with much success, where the standard's alone, have failed.

[lancek4]

All knowledge, all that is known, including positions that gain of what might possibly be known, are based in and derive their value for truth from an ethics; at once, all knowledge is gained against a hierarchical scheme of truth; all things that are true are good. If it is true that someone is a murderer, it is because it is ethically true. If it is true that water us liquid it is because it is good that it is so. No knowledge escapes ethical position. Ethics determines what objects are true and by what quality such truth may be classified in the scheme of ethics.

To deny this, that is, to say that some topics are about ethics and some are not is to posit a transcendent, true object.

- I just stumbled onto this:
A way to gain a comprehensive reading of N:
The True Object = the Trandcedent.

Whereever it is posited that a truth may be attained, there does the transcendent reside.
To say that we have found certain truths posits a particular route toward the attainment of the transcendent: the Progress of humanity, the Evolution - history argues the end product of the present as purpose of the transcending object to be attained (one day).

The history of attained truth retroactively posits the proper route and method for attaining the True object -

The is de facto definition of religion. To put off into a particular classification of ideas, and call it 'religion' relies on an avoidance of the 'more true' scheme of ideas by which 'religion' is shown false, such that the latter scheme may justify its own 'truth value'.

It is the difference between extrinsic and intrinsic mythology.

[SpheresOfBalance]

A predictable response.
You being a loner is not a surprise to me. You are in danger of building your own world a loosing a sense of proportion.

Do you mean like a guy that goes to the top of a mountain, and stays for like 10 years, and becomes an overman? Or like the one that writes of it? Or maybe it was all about opium.

Look I'm a very compassionate person, and I feel for him, with respect to his pretty much, lifelong sicklyness, and that he died at just 55.

[chaz wyman]

A predictable response.
You being a loner is not a surprise to me. You are in danger of building your own world a loosing a sense of proportion.

Do you mean like a guy that goes to the top of a mountain, and stays for like 10 years,

No I don't.

and becomes an overman? Or like the one that writes of it? Or maybe it was all about opium.

Do you take opium?
Taking drugs alone can be pretty sad. I have always considered drug taking to be a social activity.


Look I'm a very compassionate person, and I feel for him, with respect to his pretty much, lifelong sicklyness, and that he died at just 55.

Your compassion is utterly mis-placed. Nietzsche would have scorned you for such a feeling. N's philosophy is to take suffering on the chin, and we are measured by the degree to which we are able to suck it up.

[SpheresOfBalance]

A predictable response.
You being a loner is not a surprise to me. You are in danger of building your own world a loosing a sense of proportion.

Do you mean like a guy that goes to the top of a mountain, and stays for like 10 years,

No I don't.
I thought you had more sense than to be a man of double standards, as those types are definitely fools. Both N during his writing of, and his alter ego, Zarathustra were secluded and were not in danger of loosing perspective, yet I am? How do you know I'm not an overman, and you're simply a towns folk with deaf ears, as they were unaware? Oh, I know this won't get past your ego, so take it rhetorically.


and becomes an overman? Or like the one that writes of it? Or maybe it was all about opium.

Do you take opium?
No, N did! I thought you were a history buff...

Taking drugs alone can be pretty sad. I have always considered drug taking to be a social activity.
Then you should travel back in time and tell your buddy N, because he did. I haven't been taking any drugs other than for Hypertension, for quite some time, not to say that I won't at some time in the future, just not currently.

Look I'm a very compassionate person, and I feel for him, with respect to his pretty much, lifelong sicklyness, and that he died at just 55.

Your compassion is utterly mis-placed. Nietzsche would have scorned you for such a feeling. N's philosophy is to take suffering on the chin, and we are measured by the degree to which we are able to suck it up.
There you go channeling dead people again, thus speaking for them, as if you possibly could!

You know I'm really surprised that a man with your amount of, 'supposed', education would believe in such mysticism. I guess you're just not a man of science.

[chaz wyman]

Do you take opium?[/color]
No, N did!

Dah obviously! Most intellectual Victorians did. Drug prohibition is basically a 20thC phenomenon.


I thought you were a history buff...