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Re: Racism

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Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:11 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:57 amWhat is your actual causal racial explanation for it? Is this just anecdoatal evidence that black people are bad people or is this somehow related to that "true racism" that is going to toally make me lose touch with reality?

Is this going to relate to the weird testosterone thing you trying to do but ended up discussing the Dutch?
I brought it up because a few weeks ago you claimed it was "Racist" to imply that African-Americans disproportionately caused crime in the US.

And now you balk when confronted with it in real-time...so why do you dodge the issue?

As to your earlier disputation, Asian females are preferred by a small segment of white males, in Western countries, but white females are still the #1 desirable female group. So you're wrong/inaccurate in your refutation.
Crime does not correlate to race.
It correlates to poverty.
Black people are more likely to be in poverty because of racists like you.
So it is racists that are the primary cause of crime.
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Sculptor wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:13 amCrime does not correlate to race.
It correlates to poverty.
Black people are more likely to be in poverty because of racists like you.
So it is racists that are the primary cause of crime.
Scalpy, how are "racists like me" putting African-Americans into poverty?

Explain yourself.
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Re: Racism

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Let's get this debate going...weekend is almost here and time's ticking...

C'mon Scalpy-Vege-Schitzy, let's go!
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By the way, if crime were caused by poverty, then poor white/brown/yellow Americans would commit mass smash-and-grabs like the video demonstrates, but they don't...

So Scalpy's argument is roundly defeated...

Next!!
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Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:12 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:06 amIt's a disingenous question. How the fuck would I know? I'm not even American.
I disagree, when I see the video, I understand how many Americans "are Racist". Because people are not blind, as you presume they are, or yourself to be.

People might be shamed for "being Racist", but the video speaks-for-itself. You can't deny it.
I can see that most, if not all, are black. I would say they are probably from organised criminal gangs. Probably not 'poor' at all.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:43 amI can see that most, if not all, are black. I would say they are probably from organised criminal gangs. Probably not 'poor' at all.
I'll expand on your point though.

There is meme-ability of the actions though. They become popularized through Twitter, Tik Tok, social media, etc. It became popular with BLM and Antifa during the Trump Administration. But African-Americans have been doing mass smash-and-grabs from about 2008. So it's a recent phenomenon. Sculptor is incorrect, if it were "poverty only" then poor whites, hispanics, east indians, east asians, in the United States, would exhibit the same behavior. They don't. The exception is that there are some (rich) white Antifa members who engage in smash-and-grabs, but their motivation is different, simply to create chaos and "spite the system". Although this sentiment is shared among BLM.

Then these behaviors are witnessed by immigrants in European countries, who mimic the behavior. So beware Britannians... America's illness spreads to you next.
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Very strange the way Americans truly believe that there are only two kinds of humans on the planet: 'Brits' and Americans.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:06 amVery strange the way Americans truly believe that there are only two kinds of humans on the planet: 'Brits' and Americans.
Your words,
Not mine! :arrow:
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Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:11 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:57 amWhat is your actual causal racial explanation for it? Is this just anecdoatal evidence that black people are bad people or is this somehow related to that "true racism" that is going to toally make me lose touch with reality?

Is this going to relate to the weird testosterone thing you trying to do but ended up discussing the Dutch?
I brought it up because a few weeks ago you claimed it was "Racist" to imply that African-Americans disproportionately caused crime in the US.

And now you balk when confronted with it in real-time...so why do you dodge the issue?

As to your earlier disputation, Asian females are preferred by a small segment of white males, in Western countries, but white females are still the #1 desirable female group. So you're wrong/inaccurate in your refutation.
That refutation comes from your own data, it clearly shows you don't know how to assess data in even basic terms, and the above shows that you still haven't worked out even what is being measured in the presented data you fool.

Which is a problem, because your work on racial crime data is suspect due to similar failings but on a larger scale. You aren't willing to say out loud what hypothesis you are hoping to support via this video. Is it expecting too much to suppose you are familiar with the concept of underdetermation?
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Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:14 am
Sculptor wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:13 amCrime does not correlate to race.
It correlates to poverty.
Black people are more likely to be in poverty because of racists like you.
So it is racists that are the primary cause of crime.
Scalpy, how are "racists like me" putting African-Americans into poverty?

Explain yourself.
You have already offered that in your attempt to justify your earlier testosterone claims.
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Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:14 am
Sculptor wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:13 amCrime does not correlate to race.
It correlates to poverty.
Black people are more likely to be in poverty because of racists like you.
So it is racists that are the primary cause of crime.
Scalpy, how are "racists like me" putting African-Americans into poverty?

Explain yourself.
Racists like you only see criminals when you see a black person.
Racists like you tend not to give jobs out; buy things from; or provide collage places (though you yourself would never be in such a position of power).
Racist like you make black people use different bar, water fountains, and make them sit at the back of the bus.
Embrace your history.
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Re: Racism

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Sculptor wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:50 am
Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:14 am
Sculptor wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:13 amCrime does not correlate to race.
It correlates to poverty.
Black people are more likely to be in poverty because of racists like you.
So it is racists that are the primary cause of crime.
Scalpy, how are "racists like me" putting African-Americans into poverty?

Explain yourself.
Racists like you only see criminals when you see a black person.
Racists like you tend not to give jobs out; buy things from; or provide collage places (though you yourself would never be in such a position of power).
Racist like you make black people use different bar, water fountains, and make them sit at the back of the bus.
Embrace your history.
Racists like you choose to live in the whitest of white part of the country and then sit in their privileged ivory tower calling everyone else 'racist'.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:39 amThat refutation comes from your own data, it clearly shows you don't know how to assess data in even basic terms, and the above shows that you still haven't worked out even what is being measured in the presented data you fool.

Which is a problem, because your work on racial crime data is suspect due to similar failings but on a larger scale. You aren't willing to say out loud what hypothesis you are hoping to support via this video. Is it expecting too much to suppose you are familiar with the concept of underdetermation?
1) You clicked on the first link, not the other links.
2) You didn't understand the data versus my arguments made
3) You contradicted yourself about "being Racist" about crime statistics, when presented with video proof

Shall we keep going?
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Re: Racism

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Sculptor wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:50 amRacists like you only see criminals when you see a black person.
Racists like you tend not to give jobs out; buy things from; or provide collage places (though you yourself would never be in such a position of power).
Racist like you make black people use different bar, water fountains, and make them sit at the back of the bus.
Embrace your history.
All this sounds like typical liberal projection to me.
Why are you such a Racist, Scalpy?
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Re: Racism

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Sculptor wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:13 am
Wizard22 wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:11 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:57 amWhat is your actual causal racial explanation for it? Is this just anecdoatal evidence that black people are bad people or is this somehow related to that "true racism" that is going to toally make me lose touch with reality?

Is this going to relate to the weird testosterone thing you trying to do but ended up discussing the Dutch?
I brought it up because a few weeks ago you claimed it was "Racist" to imply that African-Americans disproportionately caused crime in the US.

And now you balk when confronted with it in real-time...so why do you dodge the issue?

As to your earlier disputation, Asian females are preferred by a small segment of white males, in Western countries, but white females are still the #1 desirable female group. So you're wrong/inaccurate in your refutation.
Crime does not correlate to race.
Stupid comment. Serial killers are nearly all white. Mafioso are Italian. Russian mafia are Russians. Chinese triads are Chinese. And going by that video, raiding stores in full view is a predominantly black crime in the US...
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