Philosophy Now Forum

henry quirk wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 5:30 pm

you have to be a woman

She really doesn't have a choice about it.

and you have to be called a woman, belinda.

Since that's what she is, it makes sense that's what she's called.
unless, of course, she's been lyin' all this time and actually is a guy...if so: shame on him

That you made an ASSUMPTION does NOT necessarily mean that the other is lying. Your ASSUMPTION could obviously be Wrong to begin with.

And why will you not answer my question asking for 'Why do you not write some words with all of their letters?'

So: rape, why is it wrong, flash? Is it wrong, flash?

Why do you not write some words with all of their letters?

Cuz I don't write so good.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 3:34 pm So: rape, why is it wrong, flash? Is it wrong, flash?

It's a tautology Henry, we covered this before.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 3:39 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 3:34 pm So: rape, why is it wrong, flash? Is it wrong, flash?

It's a tautology Henry, we covered this before.

Sounds to me like a I don't know or even it's not.

You should ask Peter H., he can tell you...oh, wait, no he can't.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 3:58 pm

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 3:39 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 3:34 pm So: rape, why is it wrong, flash? Is it wrong, flash?

It's a tautology Henry, we covered this before.

Sounds to me like a I don't know or even it's not.

You should ask Peter H., he can tell you...oh, wait, no he can't.

If you don't know what tautology means you can just ask.

Now. How do you explain via your single rule moral realism that hypocrisy is wrong? It wasn't a rehtorical question, just an apposite one given that you were abusing Belinda for behaviour that is your own hallmark.

Hypocrisy is lyin', you know, that thing you say is wrong just becuz.

We covered lyin' over there. Go read that.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:07 pm Hypocrisy is lyin', you know, that thing you say is wrong just becuz.

We covered lyin' over there. Go read that.

You can be openly hypocritical. You just did it when you accused Belinda of highlight the first and ignoring the second part of your arg. You applied double standards. You didn't lie, you did it out in the open.

Now why was it wrong to apply standards to another person that you don't apply to yourself?

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:13 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:07 pm Hypocrisy is lyin', you know, that thing you say is wrong just becuz.

We covered lyin' over there. Go read that.

You can be openly hypocritical. You just did it when you accused Belinda of highlight the first and ignoring the second part of your arg. You applied double standards. You didn't lie, you did it out in the open.

Now why was it wrong to apply standards to another person that you don't apply to yourself?

You can openly lie.

In my comment to B, there was no lie. Plainly, she addressed convention & custom and ignored morality.

What else you got?

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:20 pm

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:13 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:07 pm Hypocrisy is lyin', you know, that thing you say is wrong just becuz.

We covered lyin' over there. Go read that.

You can be openly hypocritical. You just did it when you accused Belinda of highlight the first and ignoring the second part of your arg. You applied double standards. You didn't lie, you did it out in the open.

Now why was it wrong to apply standards to another person that you don't apply to yourself?

You can openly lie.

In my comment to B, there was no lie. Plainly, she addressed convention & custom and ignored morality.

What else you got?

How do you openly lie?

Anyway, that weird shit aside, what you accuse Belinda of there is your own favoured tactic that you have been specilaising in for years. so, again, it's hypocritical. Is the practise of double standards morally wrong Henry?

It's not a complicated question.

How do you openly lie?

If someone tells you they're an astronaut when they know you know they're not, they've lied openly.

Is the practise of double standards morally wrong Henry?

It's lyin'. Covered that over there. Go read it.

And: if you believe I've been naughty, provide a citation or two.

Henry Quirk wrote:

In my comment to B, there was no lie. Plainly, she addressed convention & custom and ignored morality.

I know I did , and morality ' in context with convention and custom did interest me. However I wanted to reply as simply as I could. I was not being hypocritical . I was not sure what you meant by morality in that context.

Did you mean morality is an aspect of convention and custom, or did you mean morality overrules convention and custom?

In any case, please answer Flash's question.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:31 pm

How do you openly lie?

If someone tells you they're an astronaut when they know you know they're not, they've lied openly.

Is the practise of double standards morally wrong Henry?

It's lyin'. Covered that over there. Go read it.

And: if you believe I've been naughty, provide a citation or two.

How is the hypocritical application of double standards lying?

I was not being hypocritical

I didn't say you were, B, and I don't think you are. Flash brought all that up, not me.

I was not sure what you meant by morality in that context.

It was a snarky way of sayin' morality (moral fact) is in me, I didn't learn it as I did custom & convention.

Did you mean morality is an aspect of convention and custom, or did you mean morality overrules convention and custom?

They're separate. Where they relate is only in how morality can inform custom & convention. Custom and convention is inferior and where it doesn't align with moral fact it's an immoral thing.

In any case, please answer Flash's question.

I did...and will again...over and over and over.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:38 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:31 pm

How do you openly lie?

If someone tells you they're an astronaut when they know you know they're not, they've lied openly.

Is the practise of double standards morally wrong Henry?

It's lyin'. Covered that over there. Go read it.

And: if you believe I've been naughty, provide a citation or two.

How is the hypocritical application of double standards lying?

Hypocrisy is the application of double standards. It's do as I say, not as I do. It's lyin'.

I haven't lied in any way. But, again, if you believe I have, provide evidence.

Put up or shut up (or not...I can leave you to vent alone).