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Re: Calling All Liberal Race Baiters
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:11 pm
by Immanuel Can
Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:02 pm
You are
consciously engaging in problem-solving, while believing that there is no problem.
Heh.
Obfuscation again.
I never said, "There is no problem." I said, "You don't know
what the problem, if there is one, actually
is." That's quite different.
Re: Calling All Liberal Race Baiters
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:12 pm
by Skepdick
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:11 pm
I never said, "There is no problem." I said, "You don't know
what the problem,
if there is one, actually
is." That's quite different.
Precisely!
Either there is a problem (probability=0.5); or there isn't a problem (probability=0.5).
Why are you engaging in problem-solving given the equivalent epistemic status of both hypotheses?
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:11 pm
Heh.
Obfuscation again.
It's great that you admit to it, but it would be even better if you stopped doing it.
Re: Calling All Liberal Race Baiters
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:10 pm
by Immanuel Can
Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:12 pm
Either there is a problem (probability=0.5); or there isn't a problem (probability=0.5).
Since you admit you don't
know if there is, why are you
insisting there is?
Re: Calling All Liberal Race Baiters
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:13 pm
by Skepdick
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:10 pm
Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:12 pm
Either there is a problem (probability=0.5); or there isn't a problem (probability=0.5).
Since you admit you don't
know if there is, why are you
insisting there is?
You are incredibly confused.
From the outset I recognised that there is a problem. That is
why I am problem-solving!
Why are you problem-solving if you don't even recognise a problem?
Re: Calling All Liberal Race Baiters
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:15 pm
by Immanuel Can
Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:13 pm
From the outset I recognised that there is a problem.
Why? You just said the probability was only 50% that it even might exist? You said you don't know.
Now who's confused?
Re: Calling All Liberal Race Baiters
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:17 pm
by Skepdick
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:15 pm
Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:13 pm
From the outset I recognised that there is a problem.
Why? You just said the probability was only 50% that it even might exist? You said you don't know.
Now who's confused?
The 50/50 is your probability. Not mine.
My probability is
P(there's a problem) > P(there's no problem)
What swayed me? Evidence!
How did I collect the evidence? The same fucking way every scientist does. Observation.
Re: Calling All Liberal Race Baiters
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:25 pm
by Immanuel Can
Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:17 pm
The 50/50 is your probability. Not mine.
I never said it. You did.
What swayed me? Evidence!
How did I collect the evidence? The same fucking way every scientist does. Observation.
Great!
What's your "evidence"?
Re: Calling All Liberal Race Baiters
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:38 pm
by Skepdick
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:25 pm
I never said it. You did.
You did say it.
Let me remind you.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:11 pm
I never said, "There is no problem." I said, "You don't know
what the problem,
if there is one, actually
is." That's quite different.
If you are not using the word 'IF' to assign equal probabilities to:
A. There is a problem.
B. There is no problem
Then what weights are you assigning to A and B?
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:11 pm
What's your "evidence"?
The same thing which made you assign higher weight to A than B above.
The problem.
Re: Calling All Liberal Race Baiters
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:39 pm
by Immanuel Can
Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:38 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 5:11 pm
What's your "evidence"?
The same thing which made you assign higher weight to A than B above.
I assigned no weights.
You proposed them.
But you didn't answer. What's your alleged "evidence"?
Re: Calling All Liberal Race Baiters
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:41 pm
by Skepdick
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:39 pm
I assigned no weights.
You proposed them.
Then WHY are you behaving as if Probability(A) > Probability(B)? Why are you problem-solving?
A. There is a problem
B. There is no problem.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:39 pm
But you didn't answer. What's your alleged "evidence"?
The same thing which made you believe Probability(A) > Probability(B).
Re: Calling All Liberal Race Baiters
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:45 pm
by Immanuel Can
Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:41 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:39 pm
But you didn't answer. What's your alleged "evidence"?
The same thing which made you believe Probability(A) > Probability(B).
Then you have no evidence that should convince you. You have two equal probabilities. Maybe there's no problem. Or if there is, you have no idea
what it is anyway. You already said so.
Re: Calling All Liberal Race Baiters
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:47 pm
by Skepdick
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:45 pm
Then you have no evidence that should convince you.
And yet! You problem-solve.
Why?
Re: Calling All Liberal Race Baiters
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:48 pm
by Immanuel Can
Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:47 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:45 pm
Then you have no evidence that should convince you.
And yet! You problem-solve.
I problem-confirm before I problem-solve. You just assume.
Your evidence, please?
Re: Calling All Liberal Race Baiters
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:50 pm
by Skepdick
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:48 pm
I problem-confirm before I problem-solve.
Your evidence, please?
Why? What made you suspect a possible problem if you have no evidence?
Why are you committing time, energy and possibly money on a maybe-problem?
Re: Calling All Liberal Race Baiters
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:54 pm
by Immanuel Can
Skepdick wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:50 pm
What made you suspect a possible problem if you have no evidence? [/quote}
Deflection. I'm ignoring it.
Where is your "evidence"?