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henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:15 pm I’m curious what Trump the Schlump’s supporters will say about this quote, reported today but recorded in early February.

why'd bob wait so long to release the bite, and, why only the bite and not the surrounding audio (you know, for a fuller context)


Likely there will be blame-shifting and distraction

like pretty much every news organization ignoring that fauci said trump didn't mislead?


but I wonder if any will address his knowledge v his words and actions.

i wonder if any will call for more of the audio (you know, for a fuller context)

Nice try, but you’ve given me 3 distracting questions.

How about focusing on the quote?

commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:40 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:15 pm I’m curious what Trump the Schlump’s supporters will say about this quote, reported today but recorded in early February.

why'd bob wait so long to release the bite, and, why only the bite and not the surrounding audio (you know, for a fuller context)


Likely there will be blame-shifting and distraction

like pretty much every news organization ignoring that fauci said trump didn't mislead?


but I wonder if any will address his knowledge v his words and actions.

i wonder if any will call for more of the audio (you know, for a fuller context)

Nice try, but you’ve given me 3 distracting questions.

How about focusing on the quote?

I think I have.

We have a quote, dis-embeded from what came before and after in the interview, bein' presented as damning by folks who skew consistently away from Trump, to validate the view of folks who consistently skew away from Trump.

I question this and am told I'm the one obfuscatin' & dissemblin'.

When it comes to the Rorschach called Trump nuthin' I cite or reason out moves any of you and nuthin' any of you assert or claim moves me.

Stalemate.

How's that for an analysis?

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'losers and suckers'

Another example of what I'm talkin' about: an anonymous source claims Trump said this; multiple folks have come forward disputin' anonymous and what gets airplay? 'losers and suckers'

How is this reporting (and not agitation-propaganda), and why do folks like you -- intelligent, curious -- eat it up, no questions asked?

That's a rhetorical question: I don't expect an answer.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:05 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:40 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:15 pm I’m curious what Trump the Schlump’s supporters will say about this quote, reported today but recorded in early February.

why'd bob wait so long to release the bite, and, why only the bite and not the surrounding audio (you know, for a fuller context)


Likely there will be blame-shifting and distraction

like pretty much every news organization ignoring that fauci said trump didn't mislead?


but I wonder if any will address his knowledge v his words and actions.

i wonder if any will call for more of the audio (you know, for a fuller context)

Nice try, but you’ve given me 3 distracting questions.

How about focusing on the quote?

I think I have.

We have a quote, dis-embeded from what came before and after in the interview, bein' presented as damning by folks who skew consistently away from Trump, to validate the view of folks who consistently skew away from Trump.

I question this and am told I'm the one obfuscatin' & dissemblin'.

When it comes to the Rorschach called Trump nuthin' I cite or reason out moves any of you and nuthin' any of you assert or claim moves me.

Stalemate.

How's that for an analysis?

That’s what I’m talking about! Thanks.

'losers and suckers'

Another example of what I'm talkin' about: an anonymous source claims Trump said this; multiple folks have come forward disputin' anonymous and what gets airplay? 'losers and suckers'

How is this reporting (and not agitation-propaganda), and why do folks like you -- intelligent, curious -- eat it up, no questions asked?

That's a rhetorical question: I don't expect an answer.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:18 pm 'losers and suckers'

Another example of what I'm talkin' about: an anonymous source claims Trump said this; multiple folks have come forward disputin' anonymous and what gets airplay? 'losers and suckers'

How is this reporting (and not agitation-propaganda), and why do folks like you -- intelligent, curious -- eat it up, no questions asked?

That's a rhetorical question: I don't expect an answer.

I’m skeptical. It’s believable, but the best lies always are. So, it could be a lie, but I’m waiting for evidence or sworn testimony before I‘ll come to any conclusions.

commonsense wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:27 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:18 pm 'losers and suckers'

Another example of what I'm talkin' about: an anonymous source claims Trump said this; multiple folks have come forward disputin' anonymous and what gets airplay? 'losers and suckers'

How is this reporting (and not agitation-propaganda), and why do folks like you -- intelligent, curious -- eat it up, no questions asked?

That's a rhetorical question: I don't expect an answer.

I’m skeptical. It’s believable, but the best lies always are. So, it could be a lie, but I’m waiting for evidence or sworn testimony before I‘ll come to any conclusions.

a question: why do you oppose Trump?

I've explained, many times, why I voted for him in '16 & while I'll vote for him again in Nov...no one here who opposes him ever explains why they oppose him, beyond nebulous crap like he lies!, he's a moron!, he's bad news! and you're an evil lyin', racist for backin' him!, and that nebulous crap, as I've pointed out, is spoonfed by folks who skew away from Trump consistently, to stir up the emotions of folks who skew away from Trump.

up-thread I asked a question: you were snarky about it

can you answer without snark?

one more thing: as I say...

I've explained, many times, why I voted for him in '16 & while I'll vote for him again in Nov

...and I'm never challenged or questioned about it. My reasons are dismissed entirely and I'm told I'm just a lickspittle.

Why?

henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:18 pm 'losers and suckers'

Another example of what I'm talkin' about: an anonymous source claims Trump said this; multiple folks have come forward disputin' anonymous and what gets airplay? 'losers and suckers'

How is this reporting (and not agitation-propaganda), and why do folks like you -- intelligent, curious -- eat it up, no questions asked?

That's a rhetorical question: I don't expect an answer.

If he said it then bravo to him. Obviously I didn't hear him say it. I was countering the silly and disingenuous non-arguments of the wokies (the ones who claim to care so deeply for their fellow humans).

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:28 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:18 pm 'losers and suckers'

Another example of what I'm talkin' about: an anonymous source claims Trump said this; multiple folks have come forward disputin' anonymous and what gets airplay? 'losers and suckers'

How is this reporting (and not agitation-propaganda), and why do folks like you -- intelligent, curious -- eat it up, no questions asked?

That's a rhetorical question: I don't expect an answer.

If he said it then bravo to him. Obviously I didn't hear him say it. I was countering the silly and disingenuous non-arguments of the wokies (the ones who claim to care so deeply for their fellow humans).

me: *I don't care if he did

as I say: I didn't hire him to be saint or role-model or to maintain the status quo

I'm just interested in why those who oppose him glom onto any little thing fed to them by a hostile press, and never have a substantial complaint against him









*as I do with the current iteration of law enforcement, I got problems with the current iteration of the military; both have been wrenched free from their original purposes, have been made identical in many ways, and neither actually keeps the peace

Sculptor wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:48 pm Do yourself a favour and just spend a minute looking at this link.

https://twitter.com/lumi_1984/status/12 ... 2219063296

What is going on here?
1 Trump actually believes his own lies.
2 Trump thinks he is so smart that he can bamboozle a moderately intelligent reporter.
3 Trump is just stupid and confused applying a mindless american exceptionalism and simply cannot believe his own failure, and the failure of the USA, being the country least capbale oif dealing with the virus.

Like I said from the very beginning, "Trump's an idiot!" The only thing he actually knows anything about is money, in that he'll always want more, and that's about it. We've never had a more ignorant president. And finally, that 'he'll go down in history as the worst president ever.' He's so obviously deluded it's not funny! No, I take that back, it's exceedingly funny, in a sick sort of way. Did I mention the fact that he's a criminal? Well it's certainly criminal to allow such an idiot, posing as president, to say such idiotic things on national TV.

OK, sorry... I'm finally done beating on the obviously dead animal.

Interesting clip of an interview with Chris Hedges, in disagreement with Chomsky--for those interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cN6RhXbLQM

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:43 am Interesting clip of an interview with Chris Hedges, in disagreement with Chomsky--for those interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cN6RhXbLQM

Thanks, Chomsky is the man!

SpheresOfBalance wrote: ↑Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:46 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:43 am Interesting clip of an interview with Chris Hedges, in disagreement with Chomsky--for those interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cN6RhXbLQM

Thanks, Chomsky is the man!

You're welcome. The video kind of makes me scratch my head and wonder what on Earth are we supposed to do in November. There doesn't seem to be a right answer.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:41 am

SpheresOfBalance wrote: ↑Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:46 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:43 am Interesting clip of an interview with Chris Hedges, in disagreement with Chomsky--for those interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cN6RhXbLQM

Thanks, Chomsky is the man!

You're welcome. The video kind of makes me scratch my head and wonder what on Earth are we supposed to do in November. There doesn't seem to be a right answer.

Hey Gary, did you follow this Noam Chomsky on Biden versus Trump:? It was listed on your 'shared link page' above. It was clear that our top intellectual said that we must get rid of the megalomaniacal malignancy that is now in the oval office, that it's paramount if we don't want to face nuclear war, and human annihilation due to global warming. He said that's the first priority, then comes holding Biden's feet to the coals. And I concur.

So first things first, get rid of the tyrannical megalomaniac, thus Biden must win! We need to rally all the intellectuals, and all those that truly love, (in their giving), that believe in equality across the board, (Egalitarianism reigns supreme). That is if we want to remove the malignancy that has infested the oval office.

SpheresOfBalance wrote: ↑Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:08 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:41 am

SpheresOfBalance wrote: ↑Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:46 am
Thanks, Chomsky is the man!

You're welcome. The video kind of makes me scratch my head and wonder what on Earth are we supposed to do in November. There doesn't seem to be a right answer.

Hey Gary, did you follow this Noam Chomsky on Biden versus Trump:? It was listed on your 'shared link page' above. It was clear that our top intellectual said that we must get rid of the megalomaniacal malignancy that is now in the oval office, that it's paramount if we don't want to face nuclear war, and human annihilation due to global warming. He said that's the first priority, then comes holding Biden's feet to the coals. And I concur.

So first things first, get rid of the tyrannical megalomaniac, thus Biden must win! We need to rally all the intellectuals, and all those that truly love, (in their giving), that believe in equality across the board, (Egalitarianism reigns supreme). That is if we want to remove the malignancy that has infested the oval office.

I think you are right. It's time to rally behind some positive action.