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Walker wrote:...

... is a deep-state ...
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Arising_uk wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:01 pm

Walker wrote:...

... is a deep-state ...
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You yanks will believe any old bollocks won't you.

Arising_uk wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:01 pm

Walker wrote:...

... is a deep-state ...
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You yanks will believe any old bollocks won't you.

Walker wrote: Curious.

Since for others you habitually associate the information in their research to not only their identity but to their world view, do you also do the same for yourself?

Or, did you just make another stupid comment.

commonsense wrote:
This is true of 49% of Americans who voted in 2016.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: To put it in perspective, half a million people die in England every year. 3 million people die in the US every year. Most people who get corona wouldn't even need hospitalising. A lot of people get no symptoms. I didn't say do nothing. Educating people about hygiene is doing something. Advising the vulnerable to avoid certain places is doing something. Working on a vaccine is doing something. Shutting down the whole planet for a very small percentage of people is way over the top.

Arising_uk wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:26 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: To put it in perspective, half a million people die in England every year. 3 million people die in the US every year. Most people who get corona wouldn't even need hospitalising. A lot of people get no symptoms. I didn't say do nothing. Educating people about hygiene is doing something. Advising the vulnerable to avoid certain places is doing something. Working on a vaccine is doing something. Shutting down the whole planet for a very small percentage of people is way over the top.

I tend to agree with you but there is no-one really shutting down the planet just individual nations and citizens responding as they see fit, which is probably the problem.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:37 pm We could end up with a police state.

commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:52 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:37 pm We could end up with a police state.

Utter rubbish

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:00 pm It 'might' kill 2.2 million Americans. Since it mostly targets the elderly and those with weak immune systems then how many of those would have died anyway? Is no one capable of simple logic any more?

commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:06 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:00 pm It 'might' kill 2.2 million Americans. Since it mostly targets the elderly and those with weak immune systems then how many of those would have died anyway? Is no one capable of simple logic any more?

Logically, the possible 2.2 million deaths from Coronavirus are apart from the deaths by all other causes. In other words, the 2.2 million deaths exclude those who would have died anyway. These are 2.2 million additional deaths, above and beyond any current actuarial estimates. Is that simple enough for you?

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:19 pm

commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:06 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:00 pm It 'might' kill 2.2 million Americans. Since it mostly targets the elderly and those with weak immune systems then how many of those would have died anyway? Is no one capable of simple logic any more?

Logically, the possible 2.2 million deaths from Coronavirus are apart from the deaths by all other causes. In other words, the 2.2 million deaths exclude those who would have died anyway. These are 2.2 million additional deaths, above and beyond any current actuarial estimates. Is that simple enough for you?

You missed my point. Wasn't it simple enough for you?

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:00 pm It 'might' kill 2.2 million Americans. Since it mostly targets the elderly and those with weak immune systems then how many of those would have died anyway? Is no one capable of simple logic any more?

commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:30 pm

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:00 pm It 'might' kill 2.2 million Americans. Since it mostly targets the elderly and those with weak immune systems then how many of those would have died anyway? Is no one capable of simple logic any more?

Is there a hidden meaning here—one that makes a point other than that the elderly and the weak will die anyway if they don’t die from Coronavirus?

Your clear and explicit point is that out of the 2.2 million Americans who might be killed by Coronavirus, there is some portion who die of something else.

However, if someone dies of Coronavirus, they cannot be someone who dies of something other than Coronavirus.