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Philosophy has been cultivated for many ages by the most illustrious philosophers. Every discussion is a demonstration of the likenesses that was before. I write to permeate and preserve truth or a likeness, I mean a likeness of everything to which can be found.

There are a gallery of noble philosophers and heroes. They were willing to exalt profound thought not opinion. They exhibited an eagerness to behold the highest truth, nourished in the spirit of it. There is a generation of philosophers the same as there are generations of plants and anything that is generated from opposition. Opposite meaning things such as just and unjust, good and evil, and the innumerable, other opposites that are generated out opposite.

I am drawn to philosophy absorbed in the pleasures of it drawn off like a stream into another channel striving after the noblest pursuit of all. Not blunted by the skeptics I live on a keen edge will not abate only until I have attain truth of divine beauty, wisdom, goodness, and the like; for they nourish my mind.

Those who wander in the region of wanting in knowledge are not philosophers. Also, those who have in their mind no clear pattern are unable to look at the absolute truth and vision of the world of beauty, goodness, justice. The nature of the philosopher, they always love knowledge of a sort that shows them the everlasting and fixed, not varying from generation and corruption. They are lovers of wisdom, lovers of all true being: they will never purposely receive into their mind lies, which they loathe.

The constructive deductive rational way of observing life’s definite unchanging scheme of things from the standpoint of knowledge directed towards things that are all in order moving drawing my mind toward knowledge, truth, and purpose.

For over thirty years destined to be my search, I have been trying to master the very process of seeking declaring that it is impossible to have the satisfaction of finding all truth.

Knowledge perfect in form and possessed by every one, offered to everyone, and made plain for all. What is great and what is small arises when there is some contradiction or plurality where the eye sees both small and great but only in a bewildered manner not distinguished.

What is small and great or which is light or heavy? This invites thought; when there is some contradiction present, and one is the reverse of one involves the conception of plurality, the mind is aroused within and wants to know the truth.

Truth for which we philosophers must carry on examine until we see its highest principle. Therefore perceiving anything by the help of sight or hearing, or any of the other senses, an origin of some other thing like it or unlike it must appear in mind.

This is why Socrates carried out the command of the God of knowledge "Know Thyself" look in oneself at what is truth.

Suppose I say that the power and capacity of gaining truth and understanding exists in mind already and that, all these images dwelling in mind are imprinted in mind. The mind is the supreme ruler, autonomous, self-determining, feeling, perceiving, reasoning, will power and a reflective system that determines logically our relationship with the world.

Barbara Brooks wrote:You mean to tell me that (The color of metals can change by heat. Hegel in his Philosophy of Nature displays two examples, silver when heated its color reaches a point where it attains a bright lustre, called silver gleam, it is only momentary but, before this silver gleam all the colors of the rainbow in sequence red, yellow, green, and blue runs through. The second example is steel, when it is heated takes on a light yellow, if it is quickly removed from heat it keeps this yellow, but as soon as it is heated again becomes dark yellow and soon into purple.)

This makes no sense within the English language? You yell me I am wrong.

As far as leaving I can go.

I wouldn't tell you that you are wrong Barbara and I take your point that the above is comprehensible English. My point is whats it's philosophical point? Are you recomending it as a phenomenological experiment? What are the expected philosophical results?

Arising_uk,

Whatever I admit to understanding is not merely to persuade you of my writing talent, which is not always distinct but sincere, I try never to tell anything but truth, though not always exquisitely.

My knowledge is formed by a method a discipline that rises gradually little by little to the highest point reachable.

This is my challenge I aim to refute all not with opinion but truth, never stumbling at any step of the argument I define. Knowledge is the natural gift of God look at the movements of the stars and the things in heaven in the perfect manner. Little things elaborated how absurd! Those who want to see truth must take a long and winding road, Nothing short should satisfy them or lose sight of the higher truth where all things become useful and advantageous good.

Philosophy has been cultivated for many ages by the most illustrious people. Every discussion here is a demonstration of the likenesses that was said by them before. I write to permeate and preserve their truth or a likeness of which can be found. Truth is the universal author of all things beautiful and right, parent of light in the world.

Okay, you do have me here. If you are taking the German Idealist approach to Philosophical writing then you will probably succeed in what you are trying to achieve. But what good will it do for others? An approach that maybe one in millions will have time to understand. And only every few decades. You have said that it has taken you thirty odd years to get to this point. So how long are you considering the explication to take? Ten, twenty? Surely you can achieve the effect you want in a shorter way, given that you have arrived at a truth by now?

Barbara Brooks wrote:...This is my challenge I aim to refute all not with opinion but truth, never stumbling at any step of the argument I define.

Hi Barbara,
This is a brilliant thing to strive for. But you cannot lose such a task as you define it. Are you a Logician? As, if not, I think you'd thrive in the academic field in the study of Logic.
a_uk

Lower ye bucket where ye stand.

Arising_uk,


The saving grace of true opinion is bravery. Courage is a mighty agent, under all circumstances courage preserves, is the mightiest of all solvents in mind.

But what makes a person virtuous is justice. No doubt justice is somewhere: I struggle to catch sight of it, if you see it first, let me know so that it does not creep away, pass out of sight and escape.

Justice, there is no path, little light if I go about looking for what I already have I look not at what I am seeking, but what is far off in the distance; therefore I fail to recognize justice.

Justice is fairness, evenhandedness, it is the only virtue, which remains in a society when all the other virtues, temperance and courage and wisdom, are gone, therefore, l lower ye my bucket where I stand.

What I mean is courage is a kind of salvation. Socrates gives an illustration. “You know, he said, that dyers, when they want to dye wool for making the true sea-purple, begin by selecting their white color first; this they prepare and dress with much care and pains, in order that the white ground may take the purple hue in full perfection. The dyeing then proceeds and whatever is dyed in this manner becomes a fixed color, and no washing either with lyes or without them can take away the coloration.” Courage under all circumstances is the nature of things to be feared and not to be.

This is what Socrates termed courage, as indelibly fixed by nurture and training, not to be washed away by such potent lyes by sorrow, fear, and desire, pleasure they are all mighty solvents. Courage, this sort of universal saving power of true opinion in conformity with rules about real and false situations,

There is no difficulty in seeing the virtue of courage but the virtue of self-control called temperance has more of the nature of harmony and symphony than courage; it is the ordering or controlling of certain pleasures and desires; being our own master's 'master of self'; but master is also the slave and the slave the master; all in the same person.

Then there is a better and a worse principle; in the same person and when the better has the worse under control, that person is said to be master of self; but when the better principle, is overwhelmed by the worse principle that person is called the slave of self and unprincipled.

The virtue of temperance a 'self-mastery' truly expresses the rule of the better over the worse, the meaner desires are held down by the virtuous desires and wisdom. The master of its own pleasures and desires may claim such a name called temperance.

There are four virtues; they are good counsel, courage, temperance and justice. Good counsel is a kind of knowledge clearly not by ignorance, but by knowledge do people counsel well. It is the sort of knowledge, which gives a society the title of wise and good in counsel, describes the perfect guardians presiding and ruling.

The only virtue which remains in the society when the other virtues temperance and courage and wisdom are abstracted; is justice this the ultimate cause and condition of the existence of all the other virtues, and while remaining in them is also their preservative; and we were saying that if the three were discovered by us, justice would be the fourth or remaining one.

But justice beaten, trampled and dented by the waves of society in all sorts of ways it can hardly be distinguished, so covered over like some ogre covered in seaweed and shells and stones.

The problem with justice is it has no path, little light and is so perplexing we go about seeking it when it is right here, we look far off in a distance fail to recognize.

Justice purged away with not an ounce of shame by people who fancy they are able to rule over anyone and even over god the maker of all things. Don’t fear they merely have in them gadflies that goad them within with trouble, guilt and fight, which are the cause of their ruin.

A tyrant believes justice is the interest of physical strength and that doing wrong is more profitable to them and stronger than being just.

Socrates believed that a musician, a doctor, all talented artist of any sort should not profit more than the skill itself; and this should be as standard law and not exceed it.

Then talent falls on the side of good.

Every art by which the end is accomplished has brilliance and good and in the end happiness. Justice is this excellence of the mind by which happiness is attained.

The true artist does not regard its art as its own pleasure but always the happiness of the society and they therefore must be paid in one of three ways, money, honor, or obligation must be laid upon them to induce them to work their talent.

Justice imparts harmony and friendship, whereas injustice clearly creates division, hatred and fighting. Justice is more precious than many pieces of gold; its perfection there is nothing else, it takes means to an end; and does not aim at excess.

Justice is wrapped up in a mysterious form even though it has real meaning.

Courage makes us fearless wisdom makes us wise, but not so justice it merely produces harmony and does the utmost to maintain harmony intact all the notes of the scale. When comes the finish line receives the honor. This is the way with justice those who endure to the end of action has a good report and carries off the honor which society bestows.

It is justice that has the most complete mastery over the whole human being. Its fairness is clearly wiser and better than unfair conveys harmony, friendship and truth, whereas injustice creates division and hate and fighting.

Though the unjust escape in youth they are found out at last and in the end look stupid. When the unjust get to be old they receive full payment of the debt owed to them. In all there is an uncontrolled, untamed nature stripped of clothing arises out of the want, food, house and clothing. Satisfying these needs draw individuals together a society. And as we may guess that somewhere in the intercourse of the citizens with one another justice and injustice will appear.

Justice is concerned with the inner self. It sets in order our inner life, self-mastery and at peace with self. Socrates compared inner life to the higher, lower, and middle notes of the scale with harmonious condition.

In a society where people are duty-bound or encouraged to do their own work in the best way we should most likely find justice. This is justice where the whole society will grow up in a fine order, and will receive happiness which nature assigns to them.

When the pottery maker becomes rich no longer takes the same time with the art, becomes more and more idle and careless being rich. The potter who has no money and cannot provide the tools or instruments needed their art deteriorates.

There seem to be two causes of the deterioration wealth and poverty. Then, under the influence either of poverty or of wealth, work-person-ship is likely to go downhill. Wealth and poverty both create discontent; one is indolence, and the other of scantiness.


Justice contributes most to the excellence of every one doing his or her own work, so as the people doing their own business so goes the society.

Look at things as they really are and you will see that the unjust are in the case of runners who run well from the starting-place to the end but not back again from the end. They go off at a great pace, but in the end, only draggling their ears on their shoulders without the prize but the true runner who makes it to the finish receives the prize.

Justice is not disproportionate of any one-class happiness, but the greatest happiness of the whole society makes a virtuous society.

"Know Thy self" look in self and you will know truth. A mirror image of self comes truth and compassion therefore through reflection comes truth and with it compassion for others.

The ego is truth of pure inner self, which lays feelings? Therefore, truth falls into a contradiction has a twofold nature, which consist of idealism and reality,

Know thy self is actual truth, ascends the very process of seeking declares that it is utterly impossible to have the satisfaction of finding all reality. When truth is captain self-control follows and is most good. Through a mirror image of self comes truth and compassion of others Truth reveals the path of purpose. What is truth but objective reality, in other words, the assurance of being? Purpose the bare and simple truth comes forward asserts not just certainty of self but purpose

Feelings prevail over purpose like the struggle of division or like watching an archer pushing and pulling the bow at the same time, one hand pushes and the other pulls. Purpose and feelings one bids and the other forbid, the forbidding and bidding one.