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ForgedinHell wrote:Yeah, I've run into racists who didn't know how to stand up straight and they kept smashing their head into my knee. Racists are the clumsiest bastards around. Sometimes you have to choke them out, just so they stop smashing into things.

it was scary though they wanted to pin us down and if they managed to get us down and sit on us we'd be fucking dead those dudes were fat we are talking three meals a day at cracker barrel fat

but it does not matter how fat you are a kick to the balls is a kick to the balls

i loved the expression on their faces when the sheriff's deputy who showed up turned out to be black - its not the 1950s texas any more

now my mom and my bf's mom wont let us go anywhere they are afraid rednecks will set upon us

but overall actual racism motivated violence is pretty rare

for most part overt racism is pretty much a white trash thing these days

chaz wyman wrote:The literal definition of troglodyte means "cave dweller".

thats the etymology and etymology is not the same thing as meaning

the word actually refers to a chaotic evil reptilian humanoid:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troglodyte ... 282008-.29

The object you compared with with is a fossil trilobyte, and has been extinct for millions of years - it does not lay dormant.
It has a surviving ancestor - the horse-shoe crab, and this is not a dormant creature either.

i said it LOOKS like a trilobite

i was referring to the triops



the triops do look a bit like trilobites/horseshoe crabs despite not being especially related to them

and they do go dorman

any half-decent science toys for kids type store will have them

Kayla wrote:

chaz wrote: The literal definition of troglodyte means "cave dweller".

Thats the etymology and etymology is not the same thing as meaning

the word actually refers to a chaotic evil reptilian humanoid:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troglodyte ... 282008-.29

Even this version lives in a cave. In this case the etymology is the same as the meaning.
Don't be silly. The word was not invented by Gary Gygax, it exists in Greek mythology, and is an ancient Greek word. He does not have the monopoly on definitions.
I was a DM before you were born

As for the triops, yes you are right they do have dormancy, but no, you are wrong to say they are not related to the trilobites. Their fossils can alos be traced back to the Carboniferous. (Unless you believe in creationism)

Kayla wrote:

ForgedinHell wrote:Yeah, I've run into racists who didn't know how to stand up straight and they kept smashing their head into my knee. Racists are the clumsiest bastards around. Sometimes you have to choke them out, just so they stop smashing into things.

it was scary though they wanted to pin us down and if they managed to get us down and sit on us we'd be fucking dead those dudes were fat we are talking three meals a day at cracker barrel fat

but it does not matter how fat you are a kick to the balls is a kick to the balls

i loved the expression on their faces when the sheriff's deputy who showed up turned out to be black - its not the 1950s texas any more

now my mom and my bf's mom wont let us go anywhere they are afraid rednecks will set upon us

but overall actual racism motivated violence is pretty rare

for most part overt racism is pretty much a white trash thing these days

Maybe next time tell them you are pregnant with child, and they'll leave you alone? That will puzzle them. They'll have to figure out is hitting a pregnant woman a bigger taboo than being a racist.

chaz wyman wrote:

bobevenson wrote:

chaz wyman wrote: Evolution is not a strong point in US education.

What the fuck do you know about American education, or for that matter, education, period???

You keep telling us it is the worst in the world. Are you changing your mind again?

But since you asked...
As for me I've been a teacher since 1984. I've taught at all levels of education; infants, primary, secondary, tertiary, degree level and masters level. I've never supervised a dissertation, but I have written several. I have more education than you. I have more qualifications than you. I have more experience than you. Fuck, I'm smarter than you too.
I've also followed the debates on the struggles between evolution studies and creationism in the USA.

a) You're obviously part of the educational problem. Any educational system that is run by the government or supported by the government in any way is improper, b) so-called creationism is not taught in American public schools and there is no evolution debate at all in educational circles, and c) how can you have the gall and absolute audacity to suggest you're smarter than me when you can't even understand the "The Ouzo Prophecy," a paper that even the spokesman for the bogus Spiritual Counterfeits Project understood and was blown away by?

triops are crustaceans

trilobites were not

so i stand by the statement that they are not especially related despite looking a bit similar

horseshoe crabs that you mention are not crustaceans either

chaz wyman wrote:

Kayla wrote:

chaz wrote: The literal definition of troglodyte means "cave dweller".

Thats the etymology and etymology is not the same thing as meaning

the word actually refers to a chaotic evil reptilian humanoid:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troglodyte ... 282008-.29

Even this version lives in a cave. In this case the etymology is the same as the meaning.
Don't be silly. The word was not invented by Gary Gygax, it exists in Greek mythology, and is an ancient Greek word. He does not have the monopoly on definitions.
I was a DM before you were born

As for the triops, yes you are right they do have dormancy, but no, you are wrong to say they are not related to the trilobites. Their fossils can alos be traced back to the Carboniferous. (Unless you believe in creationism)

Why do people always argue 'dated' mainstream beliefs,
seemingly assuming they must be the only plausible possibilities? I don't see that the relative time we apply is a factor that necessarily un-/substantiates the question of creationism or evolutionism. I only see superimposing the two as possibility, when testing the creationism theory.

Kayla wrote:triops are crustaceans

trilobites were not

so i stand by the statement that they are not especially related despite looking a bit similar

horseshoe crabs that you mention are not crustaceans either

They are both Arthropodia, That means they are related.

They are from the same Phylum.

Trilobites and horse-shoe crabs do not share the same sub-phylum or Class - but they are regarded as related to Trilobites, as are triops.

The fact is that is is not known for sure what is directly related to what over that length of time - its all done with morphology as there is no DNA evidence from the Carboniferous.

SpheresOfBalance wrote:

chaz wyman wrote:

Kayla wrote: Thats the etymology and etymology is not the same thing as meaning

the word actually refers to a chaotic evil reptilian humanoid:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troglodyte ... 282008-.29

Even this version lives in a cave. In this case the etymology is the same as the meaning.
Don't be silly. The word was not invented by Gary Gygax, it exists in Greek mythology, and is an ancient Greek word. He does not have the monopoly on definitions.
I was a DM before you were born

As for the triops, yes you are right they do have dormancy, but no, you are wrong to say they are not related to the trilobites. Their fossils can alos be traced back to the Carboniferous. (Unless you believe in creationism)

Why do people always argue 'dated' mainstream beliefs,
seemingly assuming they must be the only plausible possibilities? I don't see that the relative time we apply is a factor that necessarily un-/substantiates the question of creationism or evolutionism. I only see superimposing the two as possibility, when testing the creationism theory.

Greek Mythology predated Dungeons and Dragons. Unless you are trying to make a claim that a conspiracy exists amongst all Classical Scholars to down date Homer from the late 20thC back to the Early Iron Age.

bobevenson wrote:
a) You're obviously part of the educational problem. Any educational system that is run by the government or supported by the government in any way is improper, b) so-called creationism is not taught in American public schools and there is no evolution debate at all in educational circles, and c) how can you have the gall and absolute audacity to suggest you're smarter than me when you can't even understand the "The Ouzo Prophecy," a paper that even the spokesman for the bogus Spiritual Counterfeits Project understood and was blown away by?

If you were the only example of what a state run educational system is capable then, yea, it is improper.

chaz wyman wrote:

Kayla wrote:horseshoe crabs that you mention are not crustaceans either

They are both Arthropodia, That means they are related.

in roughly the same way that humans and lamphreys are related

the monster in the odyssey was a cyclops not a troglodyte

cyclops are also chaotic evil but they are not reptilian and they only have one eye and they are much nastier than troglodytes who are basically sword fodder for mid-level characters

Kayla wrote:

chaz wyman wrote:

Kayla wrote:horseshoe crabs that you mention are not crustaceans either

They are both Arthropodia, That means they are related.

in roughly the same way that humans and lamphreys are related

No, not really. More like human and cats.

the monster in the odyssey was a cyclops not a troglodyte. A troglodyte is a LITERAL word for a cave dweller. It was NOT a reptile as you suggest. It is a caveman

cyclops are also chaotic evil but they are not reptilian and they only have one eye and they are much nastier than troglodytes who are basically sword fodder for mid-level characters

The world is not a D&D reality. Troglodyte comes from ancient Greece, not the mind of Gary Gygax.

A spear at Pelion Troglodytes cast; The missive spear within the bosom past;
Death's sable shades the fainting frog surround, And life's red tide runs ebbing

London too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... A3PKmzLVkQ

tbieter wrote:London too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... A3PKmzLVkQ

What a complete ****. C U N T
I don't care what colour he is.
And it is childish to make a general claim from a particular case.

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