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godelian wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:31 am ...the police did their job. What else do you want? They did manage to put quite a few criminals in prison. So, what's your problem with the case?
Children as young as 11 were raped by multiple perpetrators, abducted, trafficked to other cities in England, beaten and intimidated...there had been "blatant" collective failures by the council's leadership, senior managers had "underplayed" the scale of the problem and South Yorkshire Police had failed to prioritise the issue...Revealing details of the inquiry's findings, Prof Jay said: "It is hard to describe the appalling nature of the abuse that child victims suffered." The inquiry team found examples of "children who had been doused in petrol and threatened with being set alight, threatened with guns, made to witness brutally violent rapes and threatened they would be next if they told anyone"..District Commander for Rotherham, Ch Supt Jason Harwin said: "Firstly I'd like to start by offering an unreserved apology to the victims of child sexual exploitation who did not receive the level of service they should be able to expect from their local police force..."We fully acknowledge our previous failings."...The report found: "Several staff described their nervousness about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought as racist; others remembered clear direction from their managers not to do so."...Prof Jay said: "The authorities involved have a great deal to answer for." (BBC Report)

THAT is what I'm talking about. It makes me wonder if you know even one thing you're talking about.
Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:51 am Are you just making excuses for the rapists, or for the cowards who kept empowering them? Seriously, who are you trying to defend? :shock:
You are making up some kind of bullshit accusation.
Of course I'm not. It really happened, of course, and you can see from the above that even the authorities themselves, as well as the experts, are at long last acknowledging the rampant evil they failed to resist, and actually accommodated. It was done by the Muslim gangs in Rotherham, it was known in their community, by the authorities, by the social services, and by the politicians. There were complainants, evidence, proof -- for years -- and no action. You are either unknowing of those facts, or lying about them.

That you can tolerate it, and even excuse it, is so unthinkable to me that I cannot even believe you're trying to do it. I can only imagine it's because the most wicked perps were Muslims and people-of-colour. Otherwise, I have no idea why you'd advocate letting child rapists and those who enabled them off the hook. But these were children. They had no power, and those who should have protected them failed to.

It's you who either has no idea of what really happened or how justice works, or you're saying something very wicked yourself. Those are the only possible conclusions, I guess. I can't think of the third option.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 1:50 pm
godelian wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:31 am ...the police did their job. What else do you want? They did manage to put quite a few criminals in prison. So, what's your problem with the case?
Children as young as 11 were raped by multiple perpetrators, abducted, trafficked to other cities in England, beaten and intimidated...there had been "blatant" collective failures by the council's leadership, senior managers had "underplayed" the scale of the problem and South Yorkshire Police had failed to prioritise the issue...Revealing details of the inquiry's findings, Prof Jay said: "It is hard to describe the appalling nature of the abuse that child victims suffered." The inquiry team found examples of "children who had been doused in petrol and threatened with being set alight, threatened with guns, made to witness brutally violent rapes and threatened they would be next if they told anyone"..District Commander for Rotherham, Ch Supt Jason Harwin said: "Firstly I'd like to start by offering an unreserved apology to the victims of child sexual exploitation who did not receive the level of service they should be able to expect from their local police force..."We fully acknowledge our previous failings."...The report found: "Several staff described their nervousness about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought as racist; others remembered clear direction from their managers not to do so."...Prof Jay said: "The authorities involved have a great deal to answer for." (BBC Report)

THAT is what I'm talking about. It makes me wonder if you know even one thing you're talking about.
Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:51 am Are you just making excuses for the rapists, or for the cowards who kept empowering them? Seriously, who are you trying to defend? :shock:
You are making up some kind of bullshit accusation.
Of course I'm not. It really happened, of course, and you can see from the above that even the authorities themselves, as well as the experts, are at long last acknowledging the rampant evil they failed to resist, and actually accommodated. It was done by the Muslim gangs in Rotherham, it was known in their community, by the authorities, by the social services, and by the politicians. There were complainants, evidence, proof -- for years -- and no action. You are either unknowing of those facts, or lying about them.

That you can tolerate it, and even excuse it, is so unthinkable to me that I cannot even believe you're trying to do it. I can only imagine it's because the most wicked perps were Muslims and people-of-colour. Otherwise, I have no idea why you'd advocate letting child rapists and those who enabled them off the hook. But these were children. They had no power, and those who should have protected them failed to.

It's you who either has no idea of what really happened or how justice works, or you're saying something very wicked yourself. Those are the only possible conclusions, I guess. I can't think of the third option.
He's a Westerner who lives in either the Philippines or Thailand. Need I say more?
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"Of course, I also give Gucci and Chanel bags to girls."

You put all your girls in fresh Gucci, G? That's gangsta af bro.
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He's living in a squat in Thailand with a prostitute who's bleeding him dry. Gucci? 'Gucci' from Temu :lol:
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accelafine wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:50 pm He a Westerner who lives in either the Philippines or Thailand. Need I say more?
I'm completely astounded that anybody -- anybody, living anywhere, of any kind -- would find what's been done in Oldham, Rotherham and so forth defensible...for any reason. It's beyond comprehension. :shock:

But ideological possession is a real thing. And unfortunately, it can lead a person to excuse practically anything, it seems.
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Well Muhammad married Aiesha when she was six and he was 53. I guess that constitutes a green light to a particular kind of inbred man.
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"Aiesha"

I don't know if M was hittin it or not, though. They had sense enough back in those days to know you can't make lions of islam with a six year old. You needed your breeders to be at least thirteen or more so you didn't risk pregnancy complications and waste nine months of precious time.

Aiesha may have just been a reproductive property investment. If M was siring litters of islam lions it would have been with the older top shelf hotties in his entourage.
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accelafine wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:33 pm Well Muhammad married Aiesha when she was six and he was 53. I guess that constitutes a green light to a particular kind of inbred man.
I thought of that. The Muslims say, "Well, he didn't 'consumate' until she was 9," as if that excuses something.

Unfortunately, Mo was a pretty bad character, in that and many other ways. And those who model themselves after his example are bound never to be very good. There are plenty of better models of ethics than him.
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promethean75 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:48 pm "Aiesha"

I don't know if M was hittin it or not, though. They had sense enough back in those days to know you can't make lions of islam with a six year old. You needed your breeders to be at least thirteen or more so you didn't risk pregnancy complications and waste nine months of precious time.

Aiesha may have just been a reproductive property investment. If M was siring litters of islam lions it would have been with the older top shelf hotties in his entourage.
Consummated at nine. How 'considerate' of him. I suppose that's about the right age for you.
And there's no point in googling it. That fucking AI arsehole is terminally ill with the American woke mind virus.
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"There are plenty of better models of ethics than him."

Moses the Machine Gun, for example. Great guy.
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Check this theory out. IC you should like this because you're borderline david koresh level. You let kids in similar age groups have sexy time with each other (in private, obviously) so that sexuality is thoroughly demystified by the time they reach the hormonal stage that throws them into confused and anxious disarray because they're so excited about finally having sex.

Imagine being fourteen, and you don't have problems at school or with the family because you aren't on fire for Sally or Brad from third period english class. Imagine saying "yeah it's great, but it's just sex" when asked about it at twelve years old because you were banging nine year olds when you were ten.

Yo, we need to conduct this experiment to see what changes in society as far as human behaviors go. Were Reich and Freud right? Are we basketcases because we didn't start having sexy time until we were almost adults when by then we believe sex is this incredibly meaningful sacred and dangerous thing that can be sinful and dirty and if you have it with someone it means your locked for life to that person or you burn in hell and society casts you out or stones you to death.

People need to stop trying or expecting to fall in love and just focus on making healthy childrens and having sexy time for fun. But these kind of people are from the future, are far more logical, and all look like vulcans. The females are especially hot in the Fremen suits they wear. You have to wear them on erf in the future because of global warming and all that shit. Atmosphere is all fucked up by then.
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promethean75 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:19 pm Check this theory out. IC you should like this because you're borderline david koresh level.
Well, not much of a way to start a conversation, I've got to say. I think I'll decline. :roll:
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Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:24 pm
promethean75 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:19 pm Check this theory out. IC you should like this because you're borderline david koresh level.
Well, not much of a way to start a conversation, I've got to say. I think I'll decline. :roll:
If it helps any, IC. I don't think you're David Koresh anything. Maybe the only likeness you share with him is the habitation of a fellow human body. Otherwise, I think your intentions are genuinely good.

I do think that, like me, you have been misguided at times. Life is full of wrong turns and wasteful tangents. But in the end, I think we can all find strength in looking back at our heroes and those who inspire us. Mine is Socrates. And Socrates was not afraid to reevaluate his beliefs if they seemed to be incongruent with reality. Therefore, I have been looking at my own beliefs to find out where I've made wrong turns.

Maybe we are living in an unfolding picture that has already been determined. However, that doesn't mean that there isn't a God. And that doesn't necessarily mean we are on a bad path. I think you're on a good path. And who knows, you may be right about Christ and the Bible. But I suppose none of us will find out for sure until the fateful day we meet with the cessation of our existences. And maybe there really is a God and God really does love us all, even our warty parts. Afterall, if this is all predetermined, then God must have made us the way that God deemed was best.
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Gary Childress wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:12 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:24 pm
promethean75 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:19 pm Check this theory out. IC you should like this because you're borderline david koresh level.
Well, not much of a way to start a conversation, I've got to say. I think I'll decline. :roll:
If it helps any, IC. I don't think you're David Koresh anything. Maybe the only likeness you share with him is the habitation of a fellow human body. Otherwise, I think your intentions are genuinely good.
:D Don't worry, Gary. He didn't hurt my feelings. But when somebody starts off like that, you know they've got no intention of listening to anything you say anyway, so Prom was writing himself off for credibility.

As for you, you're just fine.
I think you're on a good path. And who knows, you may be right about Christ and the Bible. But I suppose none of us will find out for sure until the fateful day we meet with the cessation of our existences. And maybe there really is a God and God really does love us all, even our warty parts. Afterall, if this is all predetermined, then God must have made us the way that God deemed was best.
I'm not a believer in Determinism, Gary, so I can't really respond as if I think it's even possibly true. It seems wild and incoherent to me, since nobody ever, in all of history, has lived as a Determinist. Even the most ardent believers in that, including Mike, act like it's not true. I don't even thing there's a way to live as if Determinism were true, actually...such a person would be inert and then dead very quickly. So I think there are much better, more adult explanations for why things happen than "because Fate/Materials/gods made it that way."

But yes, I do think there's a God, and I do think we have autonomy, at least to a large extent. And I think each of us decides what he/she will believe and live and die for, and that that is our unalienable, God-given right. And I think, Gary, that if you exist it's because God loves you, and because He wanted there to be a Gary.

You might say, "Why?" but He did, and He does. I really think that.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:32 am
Gary Childress wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:12 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:24 pm
Well, not much of a way to start a conversation, I've got to say. I think I'll decline. :roll:
If it helps any, IC. I don't think you're David Koresh anything. Maybe the only likeness you share with him is the habitation of a fellow human body. Otherwise, I think your intentions are genuinely good.
:D Don't worry, Gary. He didn't hurt my feelings. But when somebody starts off like that, you know they've got no intention of listening to anything you say anyway, so Prom was writing himself off for credibility.

As for you, you're just fine.
I think you're on a good path. And who knows, you may be right about Christ and the Bible. But I suppose none of us will find out for sure until the fateful day we meet with the cessation of our existences. And maybe there really is a God and God really does love us all, even our warty parts. Afterall, if this is all predetermined, then God must have made us the way that God deemed was best.
I'm not a believer in Determinism, Gary, so I can't really respond as if I think it's even possibly true. It seems wild and incoherent to me, since nobody ever, in all of history, has lived as a Determinist. Even the most ardent believers in that, including Mike, act like it's not true. I don't even thing there's a way to live as if Determinism were true, actually...such a person would be inert and then dead very quickly. So I think there are much better, more adult explanations for why things happen than "because Fate/Materials/gods made it that way."

But yes, I do think there's a God, and I do think we have autonomy, at least to a large extent. And I think each of us decides what he/she will believe and live and die for, and that that is our unalienable, God-given right. And I think, Gary, that if you exist it's because God loves you, and because He wanted there to be a Gary.

You might say, "Why?" but He did, and He does. I really think that.
My guess would be that living "deterministically" would involve a more complacent approach to existence, perhaps almost a kind of fatalism where one doesn't put as much effort into things because s/he doesn't believe effort will amount to anything predominately different than lack thereof. And I agree, we ALL act as though we have free will. It's a necessary given. So it is entirely possible that BigMike's argument is missing some aspect that would save us from determinism.

However, I do think BigMike is correct in his assessment that most of the scientific evidence thus far points us toward determinism as a conclusion. It's certainly possible that we live in a determined universe.

In my own estimation, it seems to me that living as though we have free will is the most rational approach to life, even if it were the case that we are, unbeknownst to us, living in physical bodies on a deterministic trajectory. Living as a passive observer is perhaps the path of least resistance, however, it seems like being a passive observer will not prompt one to snatch a baby from a carriage before a speeding truck hits it or help any little old ladies across the street. So I agree with you there.
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