The Democrat Party Hates America

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Gary Childress wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:00 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 6:56 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 8:11 am
Are you censoring me or setting conditions for participation?
Neither. I'm trying to explain common sense and common politeness to you.
Why are you trying to explain "common sense" and "common politeness" to an insane person?
So you're insane, are you? Well, okay. If you say so, I guess. Not that an insane person would be the best judge of sanity, of course...but it would be impolite to deny it, since you insist... :?

We leave it there, I guess.
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Gary Childress wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 6:08 pm Try getting a real job. A real job is doing something that needs to be done. You don't even know what needs to be done.
Doesn't get any more real than repointing bricks.

You should try it, with the philosophy of service.

It is in service to beauty. And what is the beauty of repointing bricks? The beauty is the result, and the beautiful feeling inside.

Any craftsman who serves beauty will tell you that.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:28 am
Gary Childress wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:00 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 6:56 pm
Neither. I'm trying to explain common sense and common politeness to you.
Why are you trying to explain "common sense" and "common politeness" to an insane person?
So you're insane, are you? Well, okay. If you say so, I guess. Not that an insane person would be the best judge of sanity, of course...but it would be impolite to deny it, since you insist... :?

We leave it there, I guess.
I tried to read your hole message however, I wear eye glasses and I put them down and can't find them I can see a little so I won't try to answer.
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Whooops!!

Looks like the GOP is talking bollocks yet again, as their daft attempt at an impeachment enquiry falls on its face..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCERwslAl68
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Here are two articles from the opposite sides of the political spectrum.

World Socialist Website:

Merkel admits the Minsk agreement was merely to buy time for Ukraine’s arms build-up
Peter Schwarz
21 December 2022

According to former German Chancellor Angela Merkel, the Minsk agreement served to buy time to rearm Ukraine. “The 2014 Minsk agreement was an attempt to give Ukraine time,” Merkel told the weekly Die Zeit. “It also used this time to become stronger, as you can see today.”


And on a conservative site:

ValueSide
September 27 2023

What today is beginning to crest as a significant political tsunami began just a few months ago as a little pebble tossed into the European pond by former German Chancellor Angela Merkel. It was to be a human interest article by the German Magazine Die Zeit. It’s the kind of article editors often add during a slow news day. Ms. Merkel was asked to reminisce about her work on the Minsk Agreement.

The two Minsk Agreements had long since faded from our collective memories. As I recall, these diplomatic negotiations took place in 2014–15 and were designed to end the conflict in some of the breakaway republics in Ukraine. Checking the internet, I quickly discovered that it was the area of the Donbas, and it was occupied principally by ethnic Russians. There were accusations that portions of the Ukraine Military (the Azov Battalion) had been shelling these people. It was alleged that up to 14,000 had died in the decade before the negotiations.

In Die Zeit’s Interview, Merkel related how she was the chairwoman at Minsk, negotiating the Agreements. Also signing the agreements were Francois Hollande of France, Petro Poroshenko of Ukraine, Vladimir Putin of Russia, and Angela Merkel.

Not only was the timing of these negotiations a surprise, but they occurred fully eight years before the War between Russia and Ukraine began. But her statement that her objective during the negotiations “was an attempt to give Ukraine time.” In other words, it is time to build up Ukraine’s military in its ultimate conflict with Russia.

It was duplicity at the highest level.

And it destroyed the “Ukraine Narrative” developed by NATO. This narrative said the Russian invasion of Ukraine was completely unprovoked and was a complete surprise to the Western Allies. At the very least, NATO, the United States, and Europe had been preparing for this conflict for eight years.


So journalists on both sides are agreeing: not only was the Ukraine war not a surprise or an accident, but NATO planned and anticipated the conflict. This means that Joe Biden (or more accurately, his puppeteers) are guilty of deliberately precipitating a war with that maniac, Putin.

So what is the Democrat party doing with Ukraine? It's impossible that NATO attacked without their say-so. So there's some deliberate political scam going on there, and one that is killing Ukrainians and Russians by the millions. Why don't we know what this plan was? Because obviously, they didn't want us to know.

Still like what the Democrats are doing?
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Republicans are making a mockery of the Democrats process by bring false claims against Biden in this sham impeachment.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nh8OHstCwbI
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Immanuel Can wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:29 pm and one that is killing Ukrainians and Russians by the millions.
Hundreds of thousands.

300,000-400,000 an insane number no matter how it is considered.

It could be as cynical as half-ruining the country so it can be picked up for pennies on the dollar (some have speculated).
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:32 pm It could be as cynical as half-ruining the country so it can be picked up for pennies on the dollar (some have speculated).
Well, it's no longer possible to say that NATO didn't know the war was coming, or that Putin's aggression was unilateral, unprovoked and unexpected. They knew what was going to happen, they prepared for it to happen, and then they incentivized it to happen by insisting on expanding NATO again. They controlled the timing themselves, in fact. That's what Merkel's admission reveals...and both the Socialists and the conservatives see it. It makes one marvel that anybody still bothers to insist it's not so.

I suspect this war is just a huge, Democrat money-laundering operation. It could also be that simple. But it also could have to do with the bigger plans of their globalist friends. Or it could have something to do with Ukraine's role as a key agricultural area. It's hard to say. But some serious monkey business has gone on there, and there are a lot of dead bodies because of it.
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:32 pm It could be as cynical as half-ruining the country so it can be picked up for pennies on the dollar (some have speculated).
As with Haiti after the big earthquake, the Clinton Foundation is swooping in from circling overhead to distribute some of the Billion$ that have bypassed accounting procedures, after The Clinton Foundation takes its hefty cut off the top, which they call administrative expenses.

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While driving through the Midwest USA a traveling salesman spotted a pig racing alongside the road at high speed. He noticed that the pig had only three legs. It turned off the road and ran down a farm lane that was bordered by reflecting, political yard signs that read, Vote Hillary. Curious, the salesman turned his fuel efficient, clean combusing car to the right, and followed the pig. The pig ran down the lane and past an old farmer who was tinkering with his tractor alongside the lane.

The salesman stopped next to the farmer, rolled down his window and called out, “That’s the fastest pig I ever saw.”

The farmer said, “That pig saved our lives. The kitchen caught on fire in the middle of the night and he ran all through the house squealing to wake us. Somehow he even dragged the big fire extinguisher in from the barn and left it for me at the bottom of the stairs.”

The salesman said, “For three legs he’s pretty fast. Did he lose the leg in the fire?”

The farmer said, “No, because of his help I put the fire out quick. He's got three legs because a pig like that, you don’t eat all at once.”

Quick to grasp the implication, and wondering how he could possibly be living out an old joke he had heard long ago, somewhat distractedly the salesman asked, “Uh, what’s his name?”

The farmer said, “Ukraine.”
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First MAGA moron agrees plea deal.


One down!
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Immanuel Can wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:39 pm I suspect this war is just a huge, Democrat money-laundering operation. It could also be that simple. But it also could have to do with the bigger plans of their globalist friends. Or it could have something to do with Ukraine's role as a key agricultural area. It's hard to say. But some serious monkey business has gone on there, and there are a lot of dead bodies because of it.
The same pattern, the same plan, was applied when Iraq was put in the sights. It had to do with vast sums of money and the larger project of “remodeling the Middle East”.

Then, it appeared to be initialed by Republican Neocons. Now it looks as if the Democrat party is pushing for it. Each designation and label is a smokescreen it seems to me. There is a US power-structure allied with global power interests that puts these things in motion.

It is a question of whose interests are served by these undertakings. Cui bono? It then becomes an issue of examining the question of “interests”.

To what extent can the transformation of the US — socially, politically, ideologically and demographically — be understood to be an “élite project” initiated in power-centers with that level of control and determining power?

The entire picture must be looked at, not just one aspect or facet.
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Sculptor wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:58 am First MAGA moron agrees plea deal.
Lawfare really does work. It is a powerful tool. The State or the Feds have — effectively — unlimited resources. Individuals do not.

Thus it appears the function of a RICO-based prosecution shows itself. The purpose being to turn the least economically capable (of self-defense) into allies of the prosecuting State. The tactic is used all the time.
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:02 pm
Sculptor wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:58 am First MAGA moron agrees plea deal.
Lawfare really does work. It is a powerful tool. The State or the Feds have — effectively — unlimited resources. Individuals do not.

Thus it appears the function of a RICO-based prosecution shows itself. The purpose being to turn the least economically capable (of self-defense) into allies of the prosecuting State. The tactic is used all the time.
He's got off lightly. If you can buy expensive lawyers you avoid gaol. That is what is happening here.
Jan6ers are doing real time.
His crime ishould be a 5-20 year stretch.

Let's hope they screw the others properly.
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:55 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:39 pm I suspect this war is just a huge, Democrat money-laundering operation. It could also be that simple. But it also could have to do with the bigger plans of their globalist friends. Or it could have something to do with Ukraine's role as a key agricultural area. It's hard to say. But some serious monkey business has gone on there, and there are a lot of dead bodies because of it.
The same pattern, the same plan, was applied when Iraq was put in the sights. It had to do with vast sums of money and the larger project of “remodeling the Middle East”.

Then, it appeared to be initialed by Republican Neocons. Now it looks as if the Democrat party is pushing for it. Each designation and label is a smokescreen it seems to me. There is a US power-structure allied with global power interests that puts these things in motion.
Absolutely. There's a deep corruption manifest in US politics. Not only are the Democrats currently guilty of it, but the Republican "house" is in desperate need of a spring cleaning. How any such thing would happen, though, without the American people escaping the bi-partisan mind game, in which "my side" is always excusable in light of how bad "their side" is, remains a mystery.
It is a question of whose interests are served by these undertakings. Cui bono? It then becomes an issue of examining the question of “interests”.

To what extent can the transformation of the US — socially, politically, ideologically and demographically — be understood to be an “élite project” initiated in power-centers with that level of control and determining power?
Hey, it's mainstream Socialist theory, actually.

The game is to put all power in the hands of a single group of elitists who claim to act in the name of "The People," and to force all of the real people to behave as helpless cattle being herded down their collectivist chute to be turned into "product." The whole grand plan of Socialism is a social experiment run by the elites, in which the individual is merely a pawn.

And what makes that prospect attractive to the little guy is the naive belief that if politics and governance are a failure at the local or national level, even in part, then they will be a success at the global level. Human beings tend to think that any problem can simply be solved with the application of greater power -- and they believe this because they believe themselves (and by extension, other human beings as well) to be essentially morally good and uncorruptible. So increasing power, they think, will solve problems rather than magnifying them; because the problem isn't human nature, but only the lack of sufficient power or means to effect human plans.

But was Auschwitz better than an ordinary holding camp? And is a global pandemic better than a local outbreak? And is an authority in Brussels more or less likely to sacrifice the interests of Tuscaloosa to the interests of New York or Berlin or Shanghai? More power does not mean more virtue, or less corruption, or better outcomes. It just means that every error is immensely magnified in scope and consequence, and "the little guy" is crushed all the more effectively by the massive power of the elites who speak in the name of "The People."
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Sculptor wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:17 pm Let's hope they screw the others properly.
Make no mistake: every post of yours very clearly and strenuously reveals and expresses your zealousness.

However, and if only from my perspective, your zealousness also indicates the degree to which you are capable of self-deception.

If clear-seeing about the MAGA movement in American society is an desired object, it requires more circumspection, more careful analysis, and you do not demonstrate that you have this in any degree.

Your posts are shrill, ultra-opinionated, and ultra-partisan and that is where your error is located. Because that perspective blinds you.

Here is an interesting political ad which shows how the zealousness of your perspective leads to seeing only through one lens. The lens determines the perspective and the perspective molds the lens.

One must take distance from these shallow and determined perspectives to be able to see with clarity.
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