Tesla wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:47 pm
if any Gods exist, there will be evidence, otherwise it is just Santa clause, the easter bunny, Zeus, and Athena, etc. A wish, A unicorn. 2000+ year old insistent myth.
Let me address your assumption that there will be “evidence” for the existence of God.
As an extremely fanciful thought experiment, try to imagine that you are a
seed within a melon,...
Furthermore, as an added feature of the experiment, imagine that the melon is conscious of itself, and that it somehow willfully directed the formation of its inner contents.
In which case, the fact that you are a seed of this melon means that the melon, in essence, would be the “God” (creator/progenitive source) of your existence.
Now, if it is indeed a fact that, as a seed, you would not only be completely encapsulated within the living pulp of this
“melon God,” but also that your very own seed pod would be made of the same fundamental substance as that of the pulp itself,...
...then clearly, the evidence for the existence of this melon God would be implicit in LITERALLY everything you see, touch, hear, smell, and taste.
However, the problem is that from your extremely limited “seed” perspective, you are utterly incapable of apprehending the full scope of the melon God’s overall being (especially that of its “outer” being).
Indeed, the only way you could actually view this melon God’s true and ultimate form, would be from the perspective of the
“garden” on the other side of the all-encompassing rind wall.
Now the point is that if it is even remotely possible that we humans are in a similar situation relative to the progenitive source of the universe - as is speculatively suggested in my earlier illustration...
...then how in the world do you think that “evidence” for the existence of God...
(and especially of that conscious part of God - the part that wills the fabric of reality into phenomenal structures)
...could be discovered by human scientists (the “seeds”), when the only thing that the seeds could ever directly access and analyze with their scientific devices, is the inner (material) pulp of the melon and nothing else?
The ultimate point is that there is absolutely nothing that science could discover on the “inside” of the closed bubble* of the universe – as depicted below...
...that would provide us with the necessary
“overview” of the true status of God’s ultimate form.
Indeed, such an overview would require a perspective that resides “above and outside” of the bubble itself. Hence the constant reference in religious doctrines (albeit naïvely stated) of the existence of a “transcendent” context of reality.
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(Think of the all-encompassing outer “film” of the bubble depicted in the image above as being the metaphorical equivalent of the rind wall of the melon in the thought experiment.)
Tesla wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:47 pm
“[...] Traditionally these are questions for philosophy, but philosophy is dead. Philosophy has not kept up with modern developments in science, particularly physics. Scientists have become the bearers of the torch of discovery in our quest for knowledge.” ― Stephen Hawking, The Grand Design
Actually, it is Stephen Hawking that is dead, not philosophy.
In fact, you have just demonstrated philosophy’s aliveness by employing one of its standard tenets in your
“appeal to authority” to support your argument.
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