How the heck do you know what I do and do not understand?Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:58 am You claimed you have read those topics I have pointed out but you do not seem to understand the essence of the topics.
There are no living beings.. period!! ..just as there is nothing behind the image of an object seen, and nothing behind the seer.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:01 amIn Buddhism, the term anattā (Pali) or anātman (Sanskrit) refers to the doctrine of "non-self", that there is no unchanging, permanent self, soul or essence in living beings.
I have never thought AWARENESS is a ''thing'' in and of itself. ..please show where I have made that ridiculous claim?Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:58 amAs I had stated [many times] there are many layers of selves with a fundamental self within the unconscious of a living person. (Note this again.)
When there is non-self, there is no AWARENESS of whatever sort of the real sense.
That awareness you claimed is linked to the self of the living person.
Where you think that awareness is some thing of essence [thing in itself], that is an illusion.
I do not jump to that conclusion, that is your conclusion,not mine, where have I stated that I am a ''THING'' ..you are projecting your own beliefs again...you have no idea how I have experienced my own direct experience of infinity, because that's privy to me only, as I am directly experiencing it..not you.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:58 amThere are so many people who have claimed direct [spiritual] experience of altered states of consciousness of all sorts.
These altered states of consciousness could be extra-ordinary experiences but they are nothing more than activities within the brain arising from a wide range of reasons.
You just cannot jumped to the conclusion that there is some 'thing' [thing-in-itself] as a basis of those experiences.
Err, none of the above because only I know my own experience thank you very much...I don't need you to tell me WHY I might be having these experiences...I and only I know my OWN direct experience, and where or how it is appearing within me...my own experience is from my own self inquiry into the nature of self which I studied for a life time, it has taken a lot of time and effort and some extremely hard work and dedication. I'm one of those types, that do not just blindly believe everything that other people are telling me, I might listen to what others have to say, but ultimately I will make up my own mind about what constitutes as my reality as I personally directly experience it.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:58 amAs I had stated [many times] the altered states of consciousness experienced by many arose from many reasons, i.e. out of the blue, meditation, various spiritual practices, lack of sleep, drugs, hallucinogens, mental illness, brain damage, knock on the head, various other reasons. These range of reasons put doubts in your claim.
How do you know your so claimed direct experience has nothing to do with one of the above? It could some strange alignment of certain neurons in your brain that enable you to experience that altered states of consciousness.
So you can stuff your ideas about spiritual practices, lack of sleep, drugs, hallucinogens, mental illness, brain damage, knock on the head, right where the sun don't shine..none of these ideas have had anything to do with my personal direct experience. Please stop projecting YOUR OWN BELIEFS ABOUT THINGS ONTO OTHERS.
Consciousness is NOT AN EXPERIENCE...how many more times do you want me to repeat that? No one experiences Enlightenment, it is seen by the mind that there is no ''someone'' here to experience enlightenment and that is basically what enlightenment IS..It's a direct experience of No-self, the proof is in the pudding. You need a 'self' to know there is 'no self'. You cannot know there is 'no self' without a 'self' being there to know.
Err, maybe thats because there is no one here to prove the existence of anything, let alone a SELF....A SELF is just a believed known concept within the mind that has never been seen.... where is the edge of existence, where does existence start and finish? where is the observer, where does my observing end and yours begins? wheres the dividing line between mine and yours capacity to observe?..can that which is observing be observed...?Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:58 amMany of those who experienced such altered states of consciousness linked it with a God but cannot produce solid proofs.
As long as the mind identifies with its own self created concepts, those concepts will become real to it. Any fear based threat is a self-deceptive illusion created by the mind itself which believes in other..it is only ever at war with itself..its own created concepts and beliefs... that which is created, can be uncreated by the same creator. Meanwhile, life goes on the same as it ever was/is...since its absolutely free to create its own reality how ever it conceives and believes it to be.Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:58 amOne of the most serious consequences that lead from this idea of God is the terrible evil and violent acts SOME evil prone theists had committed on humanity and it is still a very critical threat to humanity in the future.
And yes, we all go down with the same sinking ship at the end of the day, but again, this story of human violence is just one of an infinite amount of experiences within the absolute infinite mind of infinity expressing itself.
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