mickthinks wrote:It [universal morality] is a fiction.
Questions have never been more begged than that one!
There was a question? What was it? Who asked it?
No doubt you believe there's no such thing as universal morality.
No doubt at all. If you
believe there is, you must have a reason - a
grounded reason, obviously - for believing that.
I have not seen it in practice; have not seen it in effect, nor read of it in human history; have not know of a moral precept carved on any stone that is not contradicted by a moral precept carved on some other stone.
Every tribe's imaginary sky-buddy has a different notion of whom to kill, whom to rape; whom to enslave - few forbid those acts absolutely.
Every tribe has taboos about body parts and/or functions, but not the same ones; forbid some relationships, but not the same ones;
prescribe a social hierarchy, but they're not the same, either; a way to deal with the damaged, misbehaving and misfits - all different.
Every tribe has some notion of what they owe the gods or spirits in ritual, prayer, shrines and offerings - various.
They don't even all have a similar notion of what sin is, or whether there is an afterlife.
Grounded in a swamp.
I certainly have seen, heard and read a lot of people's claim that the moral code to which they themselves subscribe is universal.
I'll put you at the bottom of that long list.
That's rather the point I think IC is making, and you've just sawn off the branch your counter-argument was sitting on.
My argument, as you call it, was merely a slight correction in your sloppy use of words and concepts.
If there was an argument, a counter-argument and a branch - feel free to demonstrate.
And in the process shown you have yourself to be less than honest, I think, Skip.
Provide evidence.
An unshakable commitment to intellectual honesty is sine qua non for a philosopher. You clearly don't have what it takes.
Clearly. But then, I haven't claimed - ever, anywhere - to be a philosopher.
All I propose to do is blow a whistle - and maybe the odd vuvuzela - at woomongers and windbags.