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SpheresOfBalance wrote:

Barbara Brooks wrote:Listen I was asked why I do what I do, like it or not that is what I do.

This thing above that Barbara said harmonizes so well with this thing below that Barbara said:

Barbara Brooks wrote:All one can do in the world is good and that is the highest of all gifts of humanity.

Come on lets everybody cram our views down each others throats without honestly heeding their rebuttal lets just keep on spouting and spouting, and spouting, and spouting (have you caught the futility in the pattern yet) for the good of all humankind. Yes it's gotta be so good for everyone? because I say so, and I've worked so hard! SOOO HARD!!!! I have a right to talk 'at' people in the name of all that's good.

look I'm sorry for being a total ASS! But I think most would appreciate it if you would at least slightly consider them. And please stop trying to be so cryptic as if that lends to your intellect. I want to hear your points for what they are in fact. Do you HEAR that I WANT to HEAR YOU! But I require that you either start putting the conjunctions back in your sentences instead of subject after subject after subject, I think you manage to fit a verb in now and again (of course I'm exaggerating in the interest of being pointed) or continue with your poetry and include footnotes in complete proper English sentences.

Of course this is just a request, so I can interact with you, this and nothing more, unless you're not here for interaction. In which case you can keep spouting to the breeze, while I and others that want to interact with you, but find that you preclude it, shall move on.

bus2bondi wrote:hello lancek and sob, if someone powerful, or with influence or sway came into this thread and disagreed with the both of you, just for kicks, say even Rick Lewis (i'm not saying he would and i hope he doesn't mind me using him as an example)(if he does, i will change it), but hypothetically, if someone like that, or even Rick, entered the thread and sided with Barbara, right or wrong, and told you to piss off like she occasionally does, how would you be acting then?

Well first off you presume that you know I'm capable of anything. Chivalry does not seem to be dead and it could win some points. You talk of force of power which is lost on me because I've worked with nuclear warheads and understand "mutually assured destruction" all too well. Your point is thus infantile and ignorant. Anyone that would resort to power to win an argument has no clue of philosophy.

would you be saying the same things in the same way publicly? i suspect you would cower off. at the very least, your methodology would change drastically. what if everyone in the world started agreeing with Barbara, right or wrong, and there were only the 2 of you that didn't. would you change your tune? if anything, you still might hold your opinion within, but i highly doubt you'd have the balls to be going about it how you do now.

How old are you, mentally speaking anyway. I take this entire forum's users to be of collegiate debate quality, which I'm sure most of which would think your assertions absurd. If you've read what I've said to Barbara in it's entirety then you have a reading comprehension problem, as you obviously have no clue as to my intent.

pluto posted a short film clip recently, by i believe it was orson wells. it's a sort of social phenomenon, what was demonstrated within it. this phenomenon is not all that could be found in it, but its one thing i noticed. i could be wrong, but i found it interesting how the 'weak' man
"This was the strong man"
who said something within a group of people that was obviously a dangerous and contrary thing to say considering the 'environment' that he was in, right or wrong, was immediately pounced upon, until.... the powerful and influential man
"This was the weak man"
in the group stood up and agreed with him. then the entire scene changed and the others went silent.

i'm not saying i agree entirely with the whole clip, i myself appreciate transportation, and those that make it possible (obviously not corruption), although understanding and respecting its point in other various ways, but i won't get into that. but that was not all i noticed in the clip. what i notice is something i notice all the time in the world, that i expressed in the above paragraph. and forgive me, i could be wrong, but the two of you exemplify this, and reminded me of that.
Often we see what we're programmed/want to see.


one thing i adore about philosophy, or most philosophers, is that most try and do flow past this sort of thing, it's 'how they do it' that makes it even more beautiful. of course, i'm probably wrong. and no doubt, i've failed at doing it correctly as well. its something worth striving for i guess.
I'm happy to see that you started off with fire in your belly and slowly but surely put it out as you realized that perception is everything.

I've never wished Barbara ill will, I respect her immensely, I just wish she would care to share eye to eye and not try and swamp people, or so her actions would seem to indicate.

artisticsolution wrote:Conformity has always been such a weird notion to me. Most everyone boasts that they don't conform and don't like others who conform, but when one human actually practices non conformity , all hell breaks loose.

Why does Barbara owe any of you an explanation or an apology? It doesn't mean she doesn't like you, it doesn't mean she will take up arms against you...it simply means she is doing her thing. I don't understand why that makes people go ballistic

bus2bondi wrote:i would also like to add a little more, for consideration, take for example, me posting this video http://www.ubu.com/film/edmondez_berceuse.html in a thread last night that, i could be wrong, was dancing around the subject that we are now in an age where certain things might, be coming to a standstill. things at least appearing, leaning, presenting themselves to some as such. possibly. whether i believe that or not myself, i respect, or at least consider that persons experience, findings, questions, or proposition. last night..

i found myself in a 'i want to just relax and fall asleep to a good book situation/mood' but had nothing around to read and couldn't sleep. so i thought, i'll just go to ubuweb and randomly click on links there and see what i find. the above link was one of them, which reminded me of a thread previously posted here on the forum.

what is the difference, i wonder, between the reaction to this video by most 'hardcore philosophers', as opposed to.. what is the word i'm looking for.. i'm trying to find the right word.. i guess i will just say "non-hardcore-philosophers" (?)

one might be to harrass an individual for the crime of randomly clicking on a video, because they couldn't sleep, that they may or may not even agree with, and associate with a post they once read, on a philosophy forum, of all places

i could be wrong, and i usually am, but i associate the 2 of you with this sort of philosophical depth.

SpheresOfBalance wrote: All I've asked is for her to consider me so we can actually share. If she fails to consider this Granite headed SOB how shall I ever learn. Obviously her "good for humanity" doesn't extend to this half wit.

artisticsolution wrote:

SpheresOfBalance wrote: All I've asked is for her to consider me so we can actually share. If she fails to consider this Granite headed SOB how shall I ever learn. Obviously her "good for humanity" doesn't extend to this half wit.

It's a misconception of man that woman were put on this Earth to cater to their whims. Perhaps Barbara is tired of sharing and just using this forum to escape that for a brief moment? She doesn't owe us an explanation, just as you don't owe us an explanation of why you do the things you do.

artisticsolution wrote:

SpheresOfBalance wrote: All I've asked is for her to consider me so we can actually share. If she fails to consider this Granite headed SOB how shall I ever learn. Obviously her "good for humanity" doesn't extend to this half wit.

It's a misconception of man that woman were put on this Earth to cater to their whims. Perhaps Barbara is tired of sharing and just using this forum to escape that for a brief moment? She doesn't owe us an explanation, just as you don't owe us an explanation of why you do the things you do.